1971 Buick GS 455 4-Speed-BaT

At $38k (now $40k on FB), this one is prob a better deal but that orig. 4-sp car & the colors are alluring.

 

"I found the numbers on the transmission that bigboysurf asked about. The numbers seem to have been altered (see pics). Also, the case # 3925660 is for a 68-70 Muncie M-21. I believe it is the correct transmission, just not the one that came with the car."

 

Personally, I don't think so.

 

It’s not at $38,000, still $25,000……??

 

The trans number strikes are triangular (If I am seeing them correctly). That is "typical" of restrikes. MAY be the original trans.

 

Salvage aspect maybe concerning when titling in the US. Crack in paint is concerning as well.

 

I wonder if you called Hagerty and explain the situation regarding the title they could check to make sure it wasn’t a salvage? That would protect their client and ultimately them .

 

The add said it was an M-22. That's a pretty big deal type discrepancy I would think. M22's are like hen's teeth and maybe not original equipment but still cool. I think they were OEM on some firebirds?

Edit: The description says M22 but clearly GM of Canada says M20.

 

M20 is the order code for a M-21

edited, my memory sucks at times, I have been corrected below

 

Thanks I missed that. Not too confusing. So the guy put the M22 in there I suppose.

 

I have to break out my GM Canada sheet for my 69. It came with TH400 but I could swear the code on my sheet also says M20 for the TH400 that year. Now I am curious.

 

M40 is the code for TH400 trans.

 

Ahh thanks!

 

So was M22 (rock crusher) available in 68-72 GS?

 

No

 

I agree. Based on what I have seen on other auctions I have watched on BAT, I will bet that last-minute bidding wars on the final day will make the final price at least $35K-$40K. Which would still be a fair price for a fun, nice looking driver that really doesn't need anything significant before it can be enjoyed.

 

Was referring to this one & forgot to post the link:

https://www.v8buick.com/index.php?threads/1971-gs-455.380684/

 

So really not sure how it all works in the USA, a guy would have to be careful with that depending on your state. Alberta doesn't use "titles" we have registrations, but its basically the same thing (ownership of the car, if its registered to me it is mine and I sign that over when selling). Car has been in several auctions in this area before ...2016, 2018, and the one does list it as salvage/rebuilt (using "title" which I thought was interesting). That can mean a lot of things but basically it was written off by an insurance company at some point, repaired, inspected (required) and re-registered. If you had insurance with a typical insurance company they might have looked ta a 20-30 40 year old car and went no way and written it off for just about anything. Specialty insurance places consider rarity etc which is why you never use a "normal" insurance company for your classic (up here anyway). The rebuilt notice stays with the car for its life, not sure if that would follow to the USA or how that works.

I'm in no way pooping on this car, it looks neat and looks like a riot to drive. I am tempted myself to put a bid in, but I'm out of space, not a fan of green, and I'd have to explain it all to the wife!! LOL I have never seen the car, don't know the owner, don't know the history. I'm not super active in the car scene up here. Buying anything 50 years old is full of issues though so a guy needs to consider all that. Link to old auction that listed the status:

https://okotokscarauction.com/carauction/1971-buick-gs-ram-air-4-spd/

 

Thx Tim

 

And there we have the evidence.