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1970 Cowl Tag Help

Discussion in 'The "Paper Trail"' started by t.graff, Mar 4, 2003.

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  1. t.graff

    t.graff Member

    I KNOW YOU ALL ARE GOOD AT DECODING THESE TAGS, IF YOU HAVE THE TIME HOW ABOUT SHARING SOME INFO. THANKS!!! HERE GOES...

    ST70 44667FL1 20361 3BDY

    TR 2185 R26 B PNT

    03C
     
    t.graff, Mar 4, 2003
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  2. Chris Lott

    Chris Lott Small block 4speed

    Are you sure that the 26 is not a 25 or 28? 26 is stratomist blue, a special order color on an A bodied buick in '70. 25 would be gulfstream blue, a somewhat rare color of blue and 28 would be the more common diplomat blue. Anyway:

    TR 185 would be the pearl white interior
    26B would be stratomist blue with a black top, but i believe the 26 to not be correct (as it was a special order color, and I see no SCO ident.), although I could be wrong.... I'm by no means an expert on decoding this stuff.
    03 C would mean it was built the 3rd week of march, 1970.
     
    Chris Lott, Mar 4, 2003
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  3. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    Hi Tom -

    Here you go...

    Top Line
    • ST70 - Style 1970
    • 44667 - Buick GS455 2-door convertible
    • FL1 - Flint MI Fisher body Plant
    • 203613 BDY - Fisher Body Number: no relation to VIN, internal to Fisher only for tracking purposes
    2nd Line
    • TR Z185 - Pearl white Bucket seats
    • R26 B PNT - Lower body paint code Stratomist Blue (Riviera color) and upper body color B - Black vinyl top
    3rd Line
    • 03C - Fisher completed the assembly of the body the third week March 1970
    HTH

    PS - Very nice (and rare) special paint order car you have there. Out of 1,416 1970 GS455 convertibles built, 13 came in that color :TU:
     
    Marco, Mar 4, 2003
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  4. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    Chris -

    Riviera color special paint GS's had an 'R' in front of the cowl paint code.

    An SCO would be like a color of 'opel rallye orange' that a car has in the Stage1 registry (Ramlark on this board). His cowl states SCO-433 PNT. There were 9 convertible SCO paint codes in 1970 and 36 hardtop cars.
     
    Marco, Mar 4, 2003
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  5. Chris Lott

    Chris Lott Small block 4speed

    Cool Marco!!!!!!!!!!! :TU: I am definately glad you told me that, I had wondered exactly what to look for for some time know. That is definately good information. :Smarty: Thanks for sharing! :beer
     
    Chris Lott, Mar 4, 2003
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  6. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    Marco, did you receive my earlier email? didn't get your adress to send the things to
    PAT
     
    bignastyGS, Mar 4, 2003
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  7. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    Thanks PAT!

    Is your email pharmon@cub.kcnet.org?

    If so, I'm resending the info.

    Thanks again for thinking of me, and how close are you to Holmdel NJ :Brow:
     
    Marco, Mar 4, 2003
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  8. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    Glad to share Chris - we're all in this together! :TU:

    What I don't know is why do some trim codes have a 'Z' in front of them. Where's Duane when you need him...
     
    Marco, Mar 4, 2003
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  9. Greg B

    Greg B Well-Known Member

    Is there any other location for the Fisher body code if the cowl tag is missing and I want to have it reproduced. Is it in the Sloan data?
    Thanks
    ________
    EXTREME Q VAPORIZER
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2011
    Greg B, Mar 4, 2003
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  10. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    Sloan can give you everything except the cowl build date (for your '72).

    With the information collected from the Stage1 registry, we could probably 'best guess' your cowl build date based upon the VIN.
     
    Marco, Mar 4, 2003
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  11. t.graff

    t.graff Member

    black top -- white interior?

    DID I READ THIS RIGHT, BLACK TOP W/ A WHITE INTERIOR. WAS THAT COMMON BACK THEN? THE CAR HAS A WHITE TOP ON IT NOW, CAN'T
    REALLY PICTURE IT W/ THAT COMBO. IT'S BEEN REPAINTED , I BELEIVE A PONTIAC AQUAMARINE BLUE. I'LL HAVE TO FIND A PAINT CHART TO SEE WHAT STRATOMIST BLUE LOOKS LIKE. THANKS FOR THE INFO. GUYS!!!
     
    t.graff, Mar 4, 2003
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  12. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    Re: black top -- white interior?

    Yes, you read that correct. Stratomist Blue is a very beautiful color, as 1971 GSXs were available in that color, and 1970 and 1971 have the same paint codes.

    Here's a color chart -

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    Marco, Mar 4, 2003
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  13. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    Here's a Stratomist Blue convertible with a white top, found on This Website

    [​IMG]
     
    Marco, Mar 4, 2003
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  14. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    And, the ever-popular, 1971 Stratomist Blue GSX

    [​IMG]
     
    Marco, Mar 4, 2003
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  15. Duane

    Duane Member

    Marco,
    So that's what my car is going to look like when it's done. It's a shame it didn't come with a white interior. I guess I better get started on it soon.
    Duane
     
    Duane, Mar 4, 2003
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  16. tlivingd

    tlivingd BIG BLOCK, THE ANTI PRIUS

    same problem

    yea i have the same problem mines supposed to be gulfstream with a pearl interior.. the previous owner put new vinyl covers on (oem style) and painted the door panels..... :blast: oh and it was supposed to have a white top not the blue one my avatar has....

    darn old retired people.

    Nate
     
    tlivingd, Mar 4, 2003
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  17. t.graff

    t.graff Member

    Thanks for the info. Marco!! What do you know about black tops w/ white interiors. Special order? Something that was common back then?Just seems odd to me , but what do I know.
    thanks again
     
    t.graff, Mar 5, 2003
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  18. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    ...and knowing your attention to detail, I cannot wait to see it completed either :)
     
    Marco, Mar 5, 2003
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  19. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    All we can tell (at the moment), is that 1416 1970 GS 455 convertibles were built.

    625 had a white convertible top
    475 had a black convertible top
    315 had a brown convertible top

    Why these three numbers add up to 1415 and not 1416 is beyond me. I'm only giving information I received.

    There's no telling what top these cars had, but 349 GS455 convertibles were built with trim code 185.

    Sorry, but at this time there are no figures for black tops/white interiors. This is the best it gets, unless Sloan can find a huge budget to get all the VIN information off the microfiche and into a database. Then these queries can be run. I suggested this to Andy at Sloan and he told me he'll bring it to the attention of his superiors.

    The problem with microfiche is it degrades each time it is handled and eventually it will become unreadable. :ball:
     
    Marco, Mar 5, 2003
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  20. 70sportwagon

    70sportwagon Silver Level contributor

    Cool Sloan info! Does Sloan have breakdowns of colors and or options available for all years or just 68 and 70? Do you just pay for research time?

    Stratomist Blue is one of my favorite colors for a GS, too!
     
    70sportwagon, Mar 5, 2003
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