Won't stay running

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by RellyRell3605, Aug 20, 2023.

  1. RellyRell3605

    RellyRell3605 Member

    Hey guys I have an buick 455 just been fully rebuilt.
    New carburetor and it will not stay running
    It will crank and run only for a second
    To get it to do that is give it some gas turn the key over and it will start
    To me seem like it's starving for gas
    The carburetor is full with gas middle of the site glass
    5 psi of fuel
    And timing seem to be close or correct
     
  2. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    What kind of ignition system is it?

    Sort of sounds like the bypass to high voltage for the points gets it to fire, but when you let go of the ignition switch, the resistance wire isn't connected...
     
  3. knucklebusted

    knucklebusted Well-Known Member

    Sounds plausible.

    Relly, what voltage do you show across the coil with the key on but not cranking?
     
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  4. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    To check that issue, temp run a wire from battery to coil". If it runs, look at the resistance wire. If it doesn't, you got other things to look at...
     
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  5. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    This could be the coil or this one will get you if you have points and that is the condenser
     
  6. john.schaefer77

    john.schaefer77 Well-Known Member

    Check your "S" terminal wire on the solenoid. If loose will do this. It's free and takes a couple seconds. Had it happen once to me.
     
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  7. RellyRell3605

    RellyRell3605 Member

    Hei ignition system
     
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  8. RellyRell3605

    RellyRell3605 Member

    Thanks trunkmonkey
    I got it to run by straight wire to the battery
    Now how can I fix it right
    What u think I have wrong
    Thanks again
     
  9. john.schaefer77

    john.schaefer77 Well-Known Member

    Did it run with the HEI prior? Check your wire feeding the coil and make sure it is 12 volts.
     
  10. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    Check power wire (disconnected) to the coil with key in RUN position and note the voltage.
    Then with the meter still connected, crank the car and see note what the voltage is and post back.

    It could be the ignition switch.

    Is it in the Monte? If so, going to need some info on wiring and mods for the swap.

    Are you using an ignition box? Or just a in cap HEI?
     
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  11. RellyRell3605

    RellyRell3605 Member

    Yes it's in the monte
    The wiring was already set up when I purchased the car
    It's set up with a ford solenoid
     
  12. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    Is the HEI just direct 12v or are you using any ignition control box?
     
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  13. RellyRell3605

    RellyRell3605 Member

    Direct no ignition box
     
  14. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    Disconnect the power wire at the coil, and with the key in RUN position and see what the voltage reads.
    Then with the meter still connected, crank the car and see note what the voltage is and post back.
     
  15. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    The "S" terminal engages the starter so that it cranks.

    You mean the "R" terminal, which bypasses the ignition resistor.

    But of course, with an HEI there is no ignition resistor, and the "R" terminal either won't exist, or won't have wires run to it.
     
  16. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    Since it starts and runs with a wire direct from the battery to the coil, it is a key on "RUN" issue.

    Since it is a "swap", sorting the source where the power to the coil is coming from.

    Is it triggered by relay from ignition switch, or what?

    OP is going to have to dig in and figure the wiring out, since there is no telling how much "modding" has been done.

    I was trying to verify if he has voltage in the "RUN" position and how much, and then the same for "Start", but I suspect the "Start" position is fine, since he can start it.
     
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  17. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Michael is correct. Start with the power lead to the HEI. Back trace it to see why you aren't getting power in the RUN position.
     

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