wolverine camshaft ?

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by gt750jim, Jul 4, 2016.

  1. gt750jim

    gt750jim Well-Known Member

    has anyone ever used or heard of a wolverine cs 680 cam ? any idea of the spec ? i have searched the net and can find nothing apart for one for sale
     
  2. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    I think that a stock replacement cam .similar to a Melling/clevite number . I thing wolverine was done by blue racer years ago.
     
  3. Bad Boattail

    Bad Boattail Guest

    From another board, I think F-M stands for Federal-Mogul:

    And:

     
  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  5. Bad Boattail

    Bad Boattail Guest

  6. gt750jim

    gt750jim Well-Known Member

    wow you guys know your stuff ! so looks like this cam would be ok for a stock 1970 350gs build
     
  7. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Assumption is the mother of all screw ups. I wouldn't make that assumption:grin: Are you looking to pick a cam? First question is what exactly do you expect from the engine? What are you trying to accomplish by changing the cam shaft? What is your current static compression ratio? Rear gears? There is a lot to consider before picking a cam. This is a good start,

    http://www.empirenet.com/pkelley2/DynamicCR.html
     
  8. gt750jim

    gt750jim Well-Known Member

    i was kinda hoping it would run as good as stock thats about it i am not looking for any extra performance i bought a short block brand new and i am just building up a driver not a race car just want to be able to drive it for the next 20+ years every day
     
  9. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I would just get a stock camshaft in that case. Gary Farmer recommends the Federal mogul CS-647 cam.

    http://www.fmmotorparts.com/fmstore...Camshaft/p/XCS647#.V3qFt7grK00|horizontalTab1

    http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?301118-Isn-t-it-amazing&highlight=
     
  10. gt750jim

    gt750jim Well-Known Member

    the first reply said this was a stock cam ?
     
  11. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    You need to measure Pistons in short block. Aftermarket will replace with cheaper v6 pistons unless you specified a certain compression when purchased . As Larry posted you need the static compression . If they used the v6 piston , compression can be as low as 7.7 vs the actual factory hi compression of 9.4 with steel shim gaskets only. In comparison it will be half the power of the 70 engine.
    Measure piston depth below deck. The cc of piston dish. Head gasket thickness. Overbore size. Head chamber cc. Stroke. .
    You may want to post a pic of short block with a good look at piston dish.
     
  12. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    My first guess is yes but it may be a factory performance replacement. Probably listed fro hi compression /gs 350 68-70
     
  13. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    No, he said he thought it was a stock cam, or similar to it. As far as I am concerned, we don't know enough about this Wolverine cam to even venture a guess about what it is or if it is suitable for your purposes. I would do a little more research here before selecting a cam. Like I said, Gary could probably help you. I would read his posts, or PM him.

    http://www.v8buick.com/search.php?searchid=4212681

    http://www.v8buick.com/member.php?40885-Gary-Farmer
     
  14. gt750jim

    gt750jim Well-Known Member

    i was lucky i picked up a new old stock short block not a recon brand new ! for 70 (about $100) bargin :Brow: good job no one in england has a clue what a buick 350 is
     
  15. wovenweb

    wovenweb Platinum Level Contributor

    I did find a listing for a Mellling SPC 10 that crosslisted the Wolverine CS 680.
     
  16. gt750jim

    gt750jim Well-Known Member

    spc 10 is a 4 cylinder cam ?
     
  17. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    That a deal. I would still check compression ratio as there where 2 piston choices in 70. Also 2 head gasket choices that will change compression ratio.
    I personally would try to get compression up to atleast 9 with either combo them get a crower level 3 cam. Higher dynamic compression which will make more lower end torque.
     
  18. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    I would ask Gary Farmer about the stock cams. He has done more research than anyone on stock cams he will have the best answer on this for you. You will not be disappointed with his advice on this.
     
  19. wovenweb

    wovenweb Platinum Level Contributor

    Not 100% certain, but I think so. This ebay ad shows the cross listed part number of CS-680. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Camshaft-Stock-wolverine-cs-680-/201531395644

    I found it elsewhere on the web listed like that, but was

    I know that if you want the GS cam for 350s, you want CS-647 That is what I bought.
     
  20. Gary Farmer

    Gary Farmer "The Paradigm Shifter"

    Perhaps my influence here isn't so bad after all.
     

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