Why not a dial indicator to find TDC?

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by CyberT, Jul 4, 2016.

  1. CyberT

    CyberT Silver Level contributor

    Its hard to find dial indicators made to find TDC, everyone seems to use other methods. Why is that?

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  2. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Because it won't account for piston dwell, the piston is at TDC for several crank degrees
     
  3. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Correct.. go to the cam degreeing sticky, and view the procedure for finding exact TDC with a dial indicator.

    JW
     
  4. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    I have used used a axial indicator to do it, what I done was watched how many degrees it moved from when the needle stopped going up and then back down then divided that number of degrees by 2. But positive stop is the most accurate
     
  5. CyberT

    CyberT Silver Level contributor

    Thanks.

    I’m reading the (interesting) cam degreeing sticky now, but its heads off.
    My engine is in the car and I’m on my way to replace the chain/gears/balancer, heads on.

    Looking at YouTube the most comment thing then would be use a piston stop.
    Tape on balancer, pull it around to it stops. Mark. Pull it the other way, mark.
    Make 3rd mark in the middle and there is the TDC.
    [video=youtube;RENhHI9n65I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RENhHI9n65I[/video]

    Question: I guess this is better than just watch a screwdriver start moving down again, but would it be best to use a Degree Wheel? Looking at the Summit Racing G1056 kit.

    And my impression is that Chevy people can move their block-mark-thing and adjust it to 0 mark on Balancer if there is a * error. How do Buick owners do if the balancer doesn’t line up the block mark?
     
  6. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Yup, that is how you do it with the engine assembled.

    JW
     
  7. 8ad-f85

    8ad-f85 Well-Known Member

    If you already have an indicator and base set up, use it.
    Just pick a point well before and after TDC to average it from, center it over the wrist pin rather than the valley or exhaust side of the piston.
     
  8. CyberT

    CyberT Silver Level contributor

    Just to get the basics.
    When I install a new balancer. Line it up with 0* mark. Will this be my TDC or could new parts be little off so you always should do a check? And just make a new line on balancer if it doesnt line up?
     
  9. Bluzilla

    Bluzilla a.k.a. "THE DOCTOR"

    Correct, ....my rule if thumb is if it's a man made part, check it. I check every one at time of installation....just good insurance.

    Larry
     
  10. 8ad-f85

    8ad-f85 Well-Known Member

    If you blueprint enough engines, you'll see a surprising amount of parts not made right.
     
  11. gmcgruther

    gmcgruther Well-Known Member

    You got that right.
     
  12. gmcgruther

    gmcgruther Well-Known Member

    That also includes aftermarket pieces too.
     

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