Why no SBB head bolts?

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Electrajim, Nov 10, 2008.

  1. Electrajim

    Electrajim Just another Jim

    Why isn't there an ARP listing or elsewhere for 350 head bolts?

    Seriously, doesn't a company like that have the resources to package a set, or is there something unique that I'm missing with the OEM head bolts that can't be reproduced. :(

    Should I have my machine shop bead blast and bake the old ones and reuse them, or is that a bad idea.

    Thanks,

    ElectraJim
     
  2. Dan Gerber

    Dan Gerber Founders Club Member

    TA Performance sells a set of (ARP, I believe) Buick 350 head bolts under part number TA 1128.

    Frankly, unless there's something wrong with your stock head bolts (badly corroded, damaged threads, etc.), or you're building a really high performance engine, just clean up, inspect for damage, and reuse your original bolts.
     
  3. Electrajim

    Electrajim Just another Jim

    Thanks Dan.
    I just placed a "large" order with TA Performance, and neglected to order head bolts. I was more curious what the technical reason that there isn't a listing in ARP's catalog, or elsewhere. http://www.arp-bolts.com/catalog/Catalog.html

    TA Performance is very valuable to the Buick community. I only wish they had a walk in retail store in the Midwest. :laugh:

    I always felt that reusing head bolts was sort of like reusing old lifters, but maybe not.
    I wouldn't ever reuse lifters or a cam if removed from an engine.

    Thanks,
    ElectraJim
     
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2008
  4. chris roesch

    chris roesch Say what again, i dare u

    as a rule of thumb it is a good idea to replace the head bolts....as far as i have always been tought.

    the buick 350 are not a torque to yeild??
     
  5. David G

    David G de-modded....

    I imagine TA simply packages the correct size ARP bolts for their 350 bolt kit, and ARP doesn't bother, due to demand.
     
  6. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    I do know that when I asked Mike about 340 head studs he said if I'd measure them they'd put together a set for me. almost time to do that too.

    Jim
     
  7. 10sec 455

    10sec 455 Well-Known Member

    I ran 200 hp of nitrous with 1969 bolts. Stock ones are just fine.
     
  8. 70sLark

    70sLark Well-Known Member

    Might want to figure out the rod bolt specs and see. You may be able to wak in a local place that has ARP. GM being a parts bin company probably grabs head bolts for many rides out of the same box.
     
  9. Electrajim

    Electrajim Just another Jim

    About ARP, funny thing is, they list bolt sets for stage II and even Dutweiller heads (V6), and probably some other lower production engines/heads other than the Buick 350 and similar SBB's too.
    :Dou:

    ElectraJim
     
  10. David G

    David G de-modded....

    Probably has little to do with production numbers, rather it's a matter of demand.
     
  11. BUICKRAT

    BUICKRAT Got any treats?

    As a rule, engines with iron heads are not torque to yield. If its got aluminum heads, they will most likely be torque to yield. It wont hurt to measure bolt stretch before you re-use the old ones, though.
     
  12. Hector

    Hector '79 Buick Limited

    Jim,I agree with all others as far of reusing good clean stock bolts but I do adhere to your way of thinking.After all the work and money on my engine,I like to replace most if not all fasteners.I'm very fond of ARP's hardware myself and have some of their catalogs.Mike at TA just put the kit together,that's where I get mine,I don't think that any part peddler out there will take the time for the Buick application.TA also has ARP ex manifold bolt kits for the 350,nice stuff.
     
  13. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    Well, somebody has the be the first to buy this stuff. Maybe in the past order details would be forgotten. But these days with the systems most vendors have in place, once it is ordered it is forever in the system waiting to be ordered again, provided they can find it. Guess the more it changes the more it stays the same.

    Jim
     

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