Why is the rubber still on my tires?

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Jacob Hinsey, Feb 25, 2004.

  1. snowmad

    snowmad Well-Known Member

    Listen to Larry!!!!!
    Read the entire "how to" from Larry.
    It works fine, you can return videos as well, allot faster...!
    :Brow:
    prox or guestimate, won't do :af:
    Make a10, 20 and 30* mark...
    read this thread an you know how to do them!
    http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27878
    Lars
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Jacob,
    You can't guess on something like ignition timing. You need to know it exactly. It can make a huge difference to the way your car runs. You need a dial back timing light to read your total advance. There is another way with a regular timing light. Looking at your balancer, from the front of the motor, make a second mark EXACTLY 1 3/4" clockwise from the timing mark on your balancer. This corresponds to 30* of timing. With the vacuum advance disconnected and plugged, rev the motor slowly. You will notice your second mark move up as you rev the motor. At some point the mark will move no higher. This is the RPM where all of your advance is in. At that point the mark should be opposite the timing tab. If the mark stops at 0, you have 30* total, at 2*, you have 32* total. Most Buick V8's run best with the total advance between 30-34* The stock weights and springs only allow total advance at much higher RPM's, as high as 4600 RPM. You want your advance in at 2500 RPM or below. There is alot of performance and power to be gained. The stock setup uses alot more vacuum advance degrees, because the stock mechanical advance is only half in at cruising speeds. For performance, you want it all in at cruising speeds, so you have to shorten the vacuum degrees when running a modified advance curve. This is really important, you are leaving alot of power and economy on the table by running the timing the way you are now. Get your advance curve right, and you'll be like most of us, you'll have severe traction problems:laugh:
     
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2004
  3. Jacob Hinsey

    Jacob Hinsey Well-Known Member

    Larry, I'm cool with checking the initial and total advance and with adjusting the initial advance, but I'm not for certain on how I actually adjust the total advance. I had it explained to me last week, but I guess I wasn't paying attention as well as I thought I was. If you don't mind, could you brief me real quick on adjusting the total advance. Thanks.
     
  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Jacob,
    I assume you understand what I posted in my last post. Make the second mark on your balancer. Disconnect the vacuum advance and plug it. Then find out what RPM your advance is all in. When you know that, loosen the distributor hold down. Then rev the motor until all the advance is in. With the engine held at that speed, turn the distributor until the second mark lines up with the 2 on the timing tab. That will give you 32* total. Recheck your initial, it will be higher, it may be too high(you'll have starting problems) If so, you'll need to recurve the distributor. I would suggest you purchase the Crane adjustable vacuum advance cannister.(Jegs part# 270-99601-1 Points dist, 22.99) It comes with 3 sets of springs that are ideal. The springs will get your advance in early. This is important, the springs in your distributor now may not allow all your advance in early enough. In fact, you may have the right amount of total advance now, but you aren't seeing it because you aren't reving the motor high enough to see it with the light. Once you install the Crane springs(two silver), you will be able to adjust the total without revving the motor to high levels. Hope that helps.
     
  5. Jacob Hinsey

    Jacob Hinsey Well-Known Member

    Thank you very much, Larry. I'll be up early tomorrow to get this taken care of. :)

    Jacob
     
  6. Gumby

    Gumby Guest

    Jacob Hinsey

    I answered your PM. Spent better part of a half hr doing it and your mail box is full. It also deleted the message. Ill try n do it again later.
     
  7. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Great info here. Thanks everyone, I'm taking notes!
     
  8. stk3171

    stk3171 Well-Known Member

    Most Q-jets have a secondary lock out if the chock is activated or out of ajustment. This could stop the secondary from opening. The levers on the side of carb move but the butterflys dont open. To test just hold the to butterfly open and look down at the bottom butterflys and open carb to besure the bottoms are opening up
    Dan
     
  9. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Does anyone know if Crane makes a adjustable advance kit for my HEI dist?
     
  10. snowmad

    snowmad Well-Known Member

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