Wheel warning!

Discussion in 'Race 400/430/455' started by BQUICK, Nov 13, 2023.

  1. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    Was at Cecil saturday and a buddy of mine with a 9sec 02 Camaro had a catastrophic wheel failure with one of his front Bogart wheels......driving at 10mph warming the car up! Tire instantly flat and couldn't even drive it. I can't imagine what could have happened 15min later going down the track at 135mph......
    Billet center ripped out of the spun alum barrel. He does some mild wheelstands....2ft....relatively soft landings.

    Race wheels manufacturers say NOT FOR STREET USE but wheelstands IMO are just as bad or in many cases worse.
    I have the same wheels on BQUICK and though (fortunately) I only pull the wheels a few inches, I am glad that is the case. BUT I admit to thousands of miles of street driving.
    I am going to call Bogart and see what they say.....

    Makes me wonder if some wrecks are caused by this type of failure....how would you know after the fact when everything is mangled.

    (Note: these are USA wheels....I would never put Jegs or Summit housebrand Chinese wheels on a car, not worth saving a few bucks)
     

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  2. 1973gs

    1973gs Well-Known Member

    My4 IMG_0001 (22).JPG year old Billet Specialties wheel started leaking and I found it cracked where the center is welded rim. I don't recall ever hitting a pot hole, especially one that would cause a wheel to crack. I took it to a buddy of mine that fabricates and welds for a living. He told me that it should have been welded on the inside and the outside to prevent flexing. Billet Specialties didn't care.
     
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  3. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    My SunCoupe has 35yr old Centerlines....I need to give them a hard look. I think Autodrags were street legal?
     
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  4. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

  5. 1973gs

    1973gs Well-Known Member

    Hang on to them. That's when they made quality parts. I had to buy my Billet Specialties after my two year old Centerlines that Summit "forgot" to balance were junk.. I took them to have them balanced and was told that there was way too much runout to balance. When I returned them to Summit, they informed me that Centerline had gone out of business. Summit did give me full credit for the Centerline's, but I still have junk wheels.
     
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  6. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Bogarts have quite a few failures out there on the interwebs......champion had a good many also.....those SUPER light wheels concern me always have ...I know the failure to success rate is exponentially one sided and there are no guarantees with making a pass but still ....
     
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  7. Mike B in SC

    Mike B in SC Well-Known Member

    Your 35 year old Centerlines are probably better than any wheels sold today…
     
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  8. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    I had a Monocoque come apart years ago. Fortunately just went flat in the lanes not down track. I believe they are out of business....
    I believe the guy who dismounted the tires put a hurting on it. I was standing right there and said hey go easy....super light wheel. Not that he did anything different but I had a wobble after that.
     
  9. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    I just talked to Bogart and Steve (standup guy) there said having a spool pushes a side load on the front skinnies when turning and that causes early wheels to separate. He said post 2010 wheels use a different weld and more of it. No failures since 2010 changes. He recommends send them in to be checked and usually rewelded.
     
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  10. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    I know they like to make those wheels light,but I don’t need to play with safety. Just make more power.
     
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  11. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    Good to hear they admit the issue and offer a fix for older (defective?) product.
     
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  12. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    I mean I understand that...but what car running Bogarts doesnt have a spool....
     
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  13. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    Right....that's why they are willing to fix them for free (less shipping to Arizona)
     
  14. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Certainly in his best interest to do so....nice wheels have gotten stupid expensive...8 mean draglites are $350 each now
     
  15. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    I prefer a bolt together wheel rather than relying on welds.....
     
  16. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Plus they look badass with the bolts....loved my weld RTs..but damn it boy they hurt the wallet
     
  17. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    HoleShots (USA) are pretty nice and fairly reasonable price last time I checked but who knows now....
     
  18. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Yea holes hots will be the next set I buy for my turbo t
     

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