What is this hole under the dash cover for ?

Discussion in 'A boatload of fun' started by jlv58, Dec 31, 2004.

  1. EEE

    EEE Straight out of lo-cash!

    Regarding the power antenna, I've seen one on a four door lesabre from 71/72 can't remember, but the antenna was located on the passenger front fender. I was thinking about taking it, but the hood or fender had to come off to get it aout, and I would never want to put it on my car anyway, so it's in buick heaven by now.
     
  2. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    The small lamps illuminate the dashboard when the headlights are turned on.

    They don't do a very good job though:laugh:
     
  3. jlv58

    jlv58 Well-Known Member

    This should be why someone mounted mine with the bulb out ! :rant:
     
  4. 72Rivguy

    72Rivguy Carl, Buicks Are the Best

    The 73 version of the power antenna was completely manual, like the one used up till 1969. It only raised or lowered with the dash switch. From 74 on, the antenna would retract when the ignition or radio was switched off. It was mounted on the right front fender, not far behind the inner fender, and the lower mounting bracket was attached to the inner fender with a couple of bolts. There was a nut holding it to the top of the fender too. Since the contours of the fenders didn't change, the antenna will fit 71-76 Buicks, except the Rivieras are unique. GM must have had complaints about reception with the windshield antenna, because Olds and Cadillac also started using the electric antennas about the same time.
     
  5. 75Riv

    75Riv A.K.A. Harry Clamshell

    Just a few images from the power antenna switches. First 2 are from a 73 Riviera (right now busy installing the defogger and switch so the dash had to come off; that's why you're missing some parts here) and the 3rd from a 75 Riviera. For both years you'd had to use a switch to retract the antenna.

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  6. Phil Racicot

    Phil Racicot Well-Known Member

    Adam,

    Did your car had the Blower type defroster? I thought that all convertibles had the heated glass version.

    About the antennas, did all 71 and 72 Buicks had winshield integrated antennas?

    Jean-Luc, If you want to see if there are remains of the Max Trac option on your car, you can also look for a rear wheel speed sensor (between the transmission ans the speedometer cable). I thought this option was only available in Rivsin 71, maybe it was added to the other full-size Buicks option list late in the model year. What's the production date of your car?

    Rob, keep me updated on the blower installation!
     
  7. jlv58

    jlv58 Well-Known Member

    Phil, I won't go to see my car for a couple of month now, so I cannot check, but here is the # of the French registration card
    466671X195734
    Options (as far as I believe these features were optional):
    Power locks/windows/seats, hole in the dash :Brow:, right mirror, Air conditionning (unplugged :rant: ), Rally wheels, trunk mouldings (not like the basic and common Adam's Centurion :grin: ), trip set, AM-FM radio ...and what else could come on top of that ?
     
  8. Phil Racicot

    Phil Racicot Well-Known Member

    Jean-Luc,
    Adam would tell you there were many more options! 4 note horn, posi axle, cruise control, rear defroster, Hi-performance 455, Firm Ride suspension, etc.

    Does your Centurion have the electric seatback release?
     
  9. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    Phil, there weren't any centurion convertibles with heated glass in 71, but in 72 there was.


    Option list for 71's - you ready? ready?.......


    UPC SALES CODE OPTION # OF CARS % OF ALL
    A01 L1 TINTED GLASS 1525 70.57%
    A02 L2 TINTED WINSHIELD 508 23.51%
    A03 NONE STD GLASS 128 5.92%
    A31 R1 POWER WINDOWS 1714 79.32%
    A39 J1 CUSTOM SEAT BELTS 736 34.06%
    A42 Q6 POWER BENCH SEATS 1109 51.32%
    A65 NOTCHBACK BENCH SEAT
    A85 J3 CUSTOM SEAT BLTS W/FR SHLDR 188 8.70%
    A90 T1 TRUNK RELEASE 561 25.96%
    AS4 J5 CUSTOM SEAT AND RR SHLDR BELTS 8 0.37%
    AU3 T2 POWER DOOR LOCKS 486 22.49%
    AAA NONE EXPORT 9 0.42%
    APJ *4 DEALER DEMO OR ZONE CAR 67 3.10%
    APL *6 RETAIL ORDER 1232 57.01%
    APM *7 FLINT FACTORY DELIVERY 4 0.19%
    APN *8 SPECIAL CAR ORDER 20 0.93%
    AQL *D GM EMPLOYEE COMPANY CAR 0 0.00%
    AQM *1 COMPANY CAR 28 1.30%
    AQQ *T DRIVER EDUCATION PROGRAM 0 0.00%
    B32 P2 FRONT MATS ONLY 160 7.40%
    B79 MLD LID QTR & TG
    B83 ROCKER PANEL MLDG
    B84 BODY SIDE MLDG
    B85 BELT RVL MLDG
    B86 RR FNR L MLDG
    B93 O4 DOOR EDGE GUARDS 1570 72.65%
    B96 WHL OPNG MLDG
    C02 Y9 HARD BOOT 5 0.23%
    C41 I1 NO A/C 443 20.50%
    C49 M9 HEATED RR GLASS DEFROSTER 0 0.00%
    C50 M7 REAR DEFOGG 261 12.08%
    C60 I6 A/C 1564 72.37%
    C61 I5 AUTO A/C 154 7.13%
    CD3 K6 FINGERTIP WIPER CONTROL 289 13.37%
    D33 O5 REMOTE CONTROL MIRROR 1966 90.98%
    D90 W8 BODYSIDE PAINT STRIPE 794 36.74%
    F40 H2 H.D. SUSP 376 17.40%
    G50 H1 TRAILER PKG 52 2.41%
    G67 H3 AUTO LEVEL CONTROL 54 2.50%
    G80 G4 2:93 POSI 309 14.30%
    G91 G1 3:42 POSI 9 0.42%
    G92 G2 3:42 NON POSI 5 0.23%
    G99 NONE 2:93 NON POSI 1838 85.05%
    K05 M8 BLOCK HEATER 61 2.82%
    K30 S6 CRUISE 508 23.51%
    K45 N3 HD AIR CLEANER 86 3.98%
    K81 41 HEAVY DUTY ALTERNATOR 0 0.00%
    KF2 C2 MAX TRAC 21 0.97%
    L76 A9 HI PERF 455 301 13.93%
    L99 NONE STD 455 1860 86.07%
    M40 B2 AUTO TRANS 2160 99.95%
    M41 NONE STD TRANS (3 SPEED MANUAL ?) 1 0.05%
    N10 E1 DUAL EXHAUST 414 19.16%
    N30 DLX STRNG WHL
    N33 S7 TILT STEERING WHEEL 1046 48.40%
    N42 X3 RIM BLOW STEERING WHEEL 147 6.80%
    N95 V3 WIRE WHEEL COVERS 136 6.29%
    N99 14 HD WHEELS 3 0.14%
    P02 V4 SUPER DELUXE WHEEL COVERS 112 5.18%
    P05 V2 CHROME WHEELS 720 33.32%
    P09 NONE STD HUB CAPS 1193 55.21%
    P16 F5 8.55 WSW 2 0.09%
    P26 F1 H78 WSW 1811 83.80%
    P30 F2 J78 WSW 303 14.02%
    P59 NONE STD BSW 228 10.55%
    T53 FRT FNDR MLDG
    T87 K2 CORNERING LIGHTS 517 23.92%
    U05 N2 4 NOTE HORN 276 12.77%
    U15 K3 SPEED ALERT 1004 46.46%
    U6A NONE RADIO DELETE 18 0.83%
    U63 D1 AM RADIO 698 32.30%
    U69 D5 AM/FM MONO 465 21.52%
    U80 D6 REAR SPEAKER 747 34.57%
    U81 NONE STEREO SPEAKERS 980 45.35%
    U89 13 TRAILER HRNSS 7 20 0.93%
    V03 I3 HD COOLING 108 5.00%
    V30 N5 BUMPER GUARDS 785 36.33%
    V78 67 EXPORT - NON US 4 0.19%
    V81 12 HITCH 26 1.20%
    VJ9 E5 CA EMISSIONS 87 4.03%
    W19 T3 POWER DOOR/SEAT BACK LOCKS 175 8.10%
    W23 66 KILO SPEEDOMETER 4 0.19%
    WB2 D2 AM/8 TRACK 126 5.83%
    WB3 D3 STEREO/8 TRACK 268 12.40%
    WB4 D4 STEREO 586 27.12%
    WC2 X4 REAR BODY MOLDINGS 477 22.07%
    WD5 35 SPEC PAINT CHARGE 56 2.59%
    WO5 J2 DELETE SEAT BELTS - EXPORT 2 0.09%
    Y40 I7 HD COOLING - NO A/C 7 0.32%
    Y50 88 EXPORT PREP 4 0.19%
    Y51 W4 BODYSIDE MOLDINGS 1511 69.92%
    Y54 P1 FRONT/REAR MATS 847 39.19%
    Y58 U4 MAP, TRUNK LIGHT/CLOCK 1708 79.04%
    Z49 R2 CANADA PREP 161 7.45%
    OFF *5 FLEET ORDER 143 6.62%
    MAD ALL 2:93 2147 99.35%
    MAH ALL 3:42 14 0.65%
    BLUE INTERIOR - ALL 275 12.73%
    WHITE INTERIOR - ALL 909 42.06%
    SADDLE INTERIOR - ALL 497 23.00%
    BLACK INTERIOR - ALL 480 22.21%
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2005
  10. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    What a mess!!! I copied that from an Excel file..

    I can send an excel spreadsheet to you if you like - request at adamm@buickpartsdirectory.com
     
  11. jlv58

    jlv58 Well-Known Member

    Do you mean that for each order, you had to fill all this list with the dealer ???

    I have put here below in bold what I have and :Do No: if I am not sure, or I do not understand what it should look like.
    Shame on me, I have not yet checked if I have a Posi or not. Very unlikely, but I need to check...too lazy to lie under the car in the wet grass in winter !
    By the way, what are the external signs of a Posi ? I remember a question of bolts number ?


    UPC SALES CODE OPTION # OF CARS % OF ALL
    A01 L1 TINTED GLASS 1525 70.57%
    A02 L2 TINTED WINSHIELD 508 23.51%
    A03 NONE STD GLASS 128 5.92%
    A31 R1 POWER WINDOWS 1714 79.32%
    A39 J1 CUSTOM SEAT BELTS :Do No: 736 34.06%
    A42 Q6 POWER BENCH SEATS 1109 51.32%
    A65 NOTCHBACK BENCH SEAT :Do No: what does that mean ?
    A85 J3 CUSTOM SEAT BLTS W/FR SHLDR :Do No: 188 8.70%
    A90 T1 TRUNK RELEASE 561 25.96%
    AS4 J5 CUSTOM SEAT AND RR SHLDR BELTS 8 0.37%
    AU3 T2 POWER DOOR LOCKS 486 22.49%
    AAA NONE EXPORT 9 :Do No: what's that ? 0.42%
    APJ *4 DEALER DEMO OR ZONE CAR 67 3.10%
    APL *6 RETAIL ORDER 1232 57.01%
    APM *7 FLINT FACTORY DELIVERY 4 0.19%
    APN *8 SPECIAL CAR ORDER 20 0.93%
    AQL *D GM EMPLOYEE COMPANY CAR 0 0.00%
    AQM *1 COMPANY CAR 28 1.30%
    AQQ *T DRIVER EDUCATION PROGRAM 0 0.00%
    B32 P2 FRONT MATS ONLY 160 7.40%
    B79 MLD LID QTR & TG
    B83 ROCKER PANEL MLDG
    B84 BODY SIDE MLDG
    B85 BELT RVL MLDG
    B86 RR FNR L MLDG
    B93 O4 DOOR EDGE GUARDS :Do No: 1570 72.65%
    B96 WHL OPNG MLDG
    C02 Y9 HARD BOOT 5 0.23%
    C41 I1 NO A/C 443 20.50%
    C49 M9 HEATED RR GLASS DEFROSTER 0 0.00%
    C50 M7 REAR DEFOGG 261 12.08%
    C60 I6 A/C 1564 72.37%
    C61 I5 AUTO A/C 154 7.13%
    CD3 K6 FINGERTIP WIPER CONTROL :Do No: I believe ? 289 13.37%
    D33 O5 REMOTE CONTROL MIRROR 1966 90.98%
    D90 W8 BODYSIDE PAINT STRIPE 794 36.74%
    F40 H2 H.D. SUSP 376 17.40%
    G50 H1 TRAILER PKG 52 2.41%
    G67 H3 AUTO LEVEL CONTROL 54 2.50%
    G80 G4 2:93 POSI 309 14.30%
    G91 G1 3:42 POSI 9 0.42%
    G92 G2 3:42 NON POSI 5 0.23%
    G99 NONE 2:93 NON POSI :Do No: but never checked yet 1838 85.05%
    K05 M8 BLOCK HEATER 61 2.82%
    K30 S6 CRUISE 508 23.51%
    K45 N3 HD AIR CLEANER 86 3.98%
    K81 41 HEAVY DUTY ALTERNATOR 0 0.00%
    KF2 C2 MAX TRAC 21 0.97%
    L76 A9 HI PERF 455 301 13.93%
    L99 NONE STD 455 1860 86.07%
    M40 B2 AUTO TRANS 2160 99.95%
    M41 NONE STD TRANS (3 SPEED MANUAL ?) 1 0.05%
    N10 E1 DUAL EXHAUST 414 19.16%
    N30 DLX STRNG WHL
    N33 S7 TILT STEERING WHEEL 1046 48.40%
    N42 X3 RIM BLOW STEERING WHEEL 147 6.80%
    N95 V3 WIRE WHEEL COVERS 136 6.29%
    N99 14 HD WHEELS 3 0.14%
    P02 V4 SUPER DELUXE WHEEL COVERS 112 5.18%
    P05 V2 CHROME WHEELS 720 33.32%
    P09 NONE STD HUB CAPS 1193 55.21%
    P16 F5 8.55 WSW 2 0.09%
    P26 F1 H78 WSW 1811 83.80%
    P30 F2 J78 WSW 303 14.02%
    P59 NONE STD BSW 228 10.55%
    T53 FRT FNDR MLDG
    T87 K2 CORNERING LIGHTS 517 23.92%
    U05 N2 4 NOTE HORN 276 12.77%
    U15 K3 SPEED ALERT 1004 46.46%
    U6A NONE RADIO DELETE 18 0.83%
    U63 D1 AM RADIO 698 32.30%
    U69 D5 AM/FM MONO 465 21.52%
    U80 D6 REAR SPEAKER 747 34.57%
    U81 NONE STEREO SPEAKERS 980 45.35%
    U89 13 TRAILER HRNSS 7 20 0.93%
    V03 I3 HD COOLING 108 5.00%
    V30 N5 BUMPER GUARDS 785 36.33%
    V78 67 EXPORT - NON USMay be ? 4 0.19%
    V81 12 HITCH 26 1.20%
    VJ9 E5 CA EMISSIONS 87 4.03%
    W19 T3 POWER DOOR/SEAT BACK LOCKS :Do No: 175 8.10%
    W23 66 KILO SPEEDOMETER 4 0.19%
    WB2 D2 AM/8 TRACK 126 5.83%
    WB3 D3 STEREO/8 TRACK 268 12.40%
    WB4 D4 STEREO 586 27.12%
    WC2 X4 REAR BODY MOLDINGS 477 22.07%
    WD5 35 SPEC PAINT CHARGE 56 2.59%
    WO5 J2 DELETE SEAT BELTS - EXPORT 2 0.09%
    Y40 I7 HD COOLING - NO A/C 7 0.32%
    Y50 88 EXPORT PREP 4 0.19%
    Y51 W4 BODYSIDE MOLDINGS 1511 69.92%
    Y54 P1 FRONT/REAR MATS 847 39.19%
    Y58 U4 MAP, TRUNK LIGHT/CLOCK 1708 79.04%
    Z49 R2 CANADA PREP 161 7.45%
    OFF *5 FLEET ORDER 143 6.62%
    MAD ALL 2:93 2147 99.35%
    MAH ALL 3:42 14 0.65%
    BLUE INTERIOR - ALL 275 12.73%
    WHITE INTERIOR - ALL 909 42.06%
    SADDLE INTERIOR - ALL 497 23.00%
    BLACK INTERIOR - ALL 480 22.21%
     
  12. 75Riv

    75Riv A.K.A. Harry Clamshell

    One indication could be the tag on the cover:
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  13. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    A01 L1 TINTED GLASS 1525 70.57%
    A02 L2 TINTED WINSHIELD 508 23.51%
    A31 R1 POWER WINDOWS 1714 79.32%
    A39 J1 CUSTOM SEAT BELTS :Do No: 736 34.06% - Are your front seat belt latches smaller than the back seat latches? If so, then you have custom belts.
    A42 Q6 POWER BENCH SEATS 1109 51.32%
    A65 NOTCHBACK BENCH SEAT :Do No: what does that mean ? - It means you have it:laugh: It's the bench seat with thearm rest.
    A85 J3 CUSTOM SEAT BLTS W/FR SHLDR :Do No: 188 8.70% - doubtful you have it....do you have a shoulder belt? VERY rare in the convertibles, if fact I've never seen one.
    AU3 T2 POWER DOOR LOCKS 486 22.49%
    AAA NONE EXPORT 9 :Do No: what's that ? 0.42% - I have no idea - something you need your buildsheet for to find out if it was an export car.
    B79 MLD LID QTR & TG
    B83 ROCKER PANEL MLDG
    B84 BODY SIDE MLDG
    B85 BELT RVL MLDG
    B86 RR FNR L MLDG
    B93 O4 DOOR EDGE GUARDS :Do No: 1570 72.65% - small chrome piece that attaches to the back edge of the door top to bottom
    B96 WHL OPNG MLDG
    C60 I6 A/C 1564 72.37%
    CD3 K6 FINGERTIP WIPER CONTROL :Do No: I believe ? - This button would be located on your shifter knob at the tip. 289 13.37%
    D33 O5 REMOTE CONTROL MIRROR 1966 90.98%
    G99 NONE 2:93 NON POSI :Do No: but never checked yet 1838 85.05% - Have you ever tried to roast your tires off? One strips is non-posi, while 2 stripes is posi:laugh:
    L99 NONE STD 455 1860 86.07%
    M40 B2 AUTO TRANS 2160 99.95%
    N10 E1 DUAL EXHAUST 414 19.16%
    N30 DLX STRNG WHL
    P05 V2 CHROME WHEELS 720 33.32%
    U15 K3 SPEED ALERT 1004 46.46%
    U69 D5 AM/FM MONO 465 21.52%
    V78 67 EXPORT - NON USMay be ? 4 0.19% - another buildsheet item
    V81 12 HITCH 26 1.20%
    W19 T3 POWER DOOR/SEAT BACK LOCKS :Do No: 175 8.10% - Do you have a handle on the side of the seat to unlatch the seat to fold forward? If there is nothing on the side of the seat, then you have electric seat locks (only offered on power lock equipped cars) The idea was that when you opened the door, the seat would automatically unlatch for you, so you didn't have to unlatch it manually.
    WC2 X4 REAR BODY MOLDINGS 477 22.07%
    Y51 W4 BODYSIDE MOLDINGS 1511 69.92%
    Y58 U4 MAP, TRUNK LIGHT/CLOCK 1708 79.04%
    BLACK INTERIOR - ALL 480 22.21%
     
  14. jlv58

    jlv58 Well-Known Member

    OK, I am still missing some options....:ball: :ball:
    By the way, did you observe that I have the trunk mouldings ? :laugh: :laugh:

    I'll now keep that post to avoid boring you at the time I fill the register :TU:


    A01 L1 TINTED GLASS 1525 70.57%
    A02 L2 TINTED WINSHIELD 508 23.51%
    A31 R1 POWER WINDOWS 1714 79.32%
    A39 J1 CUSTOM SEAT BELTS :Do No: 736 34.06% - Are your front seat belt latches smaller than the back seat latches? If so, then you have custom belts. No there are all the same chrome with "GM" button in the middle
    A42 Q6 POWER BENCH SEATS 1109 51.32%
    A65 NOTCHBACK BENCH SEAT :Do No: what does that mean ? - It means you have it:laugh: It's the bench seat with thearm rest.
    A85 J3 CUSTOM SEAT BLTS W/FR SHLDR :Do No: 188 8.70% - doubtful you have it....do you have a shoulder belt? VERY rare in the convertibles, if fact I've never seen one. Correct, I haven't
    AU3 T2 POWER DOOR LOCKS 486 22.49%
    AAA NONE EXPORT 9 :Do No: what's that ? 0.42% - I have no idea - something you need your buildsheet for to find out if it was an export car.
    B79 MLD LID QTR & TG
    B83 ROCKER PANEL MLDG
    B84 BODY SIDE MLDG
    B85 BELT RVL MLDG
    B86 RR FNR L MLDG
    B93 O4 DOOR EDGE GUARDS :Do No: 1570 72.65% - small chrome piece that attaches to the back edge of the door top to bottom Need to check but don'n remember.
    B96 WHL OPNG MLDG
    C60 I6 A/C 1564 72.37%
    CD3 K6 FINGERTIP WIPER CONTROL :Do No: I believe ? - This button would be located on your shifter knob at the tip. So I have not. 289 13.37%
    D33 O5 REMOTE CONTROL MIRROR 1966 90.98%
    G99 NONE 2:93 NON POSI :Do No: but never checked yet 1838 85.05% - Have you ever tried to roast your tires off? One strips is non-posi, while 2 stripes is posi:laugh: No sir, I am not a naughty boy and I respect my tires :laugh: :laugh:
    L99 NONE STD 455 1860 86.07%
    M40 B2 AUTO TRANS 2160 99.95%
    N10 E1 DUAL EXHAUST 414 19.16%
    N30 DLX STRNG WHL
    P05 V2 CHROME WHEELS 720 33.32%
    U15 K3 SPEED ALERT 1004 46.46%
    U69 D5 AM/FM MONO 465 21.52%
    V78 67 EXPORT - NON USMay be ? 4 0.19% - another buildsheet item
    V81 12 HITCH 26 1.20%
    W19 T3 POWER DOOR/SEAT BACK LOCKS :Do No: 175 8.10% - Do you have a handle on the side of the seat to unlatch the seat to fold forward? If there is nothing on the side of the seat, then you have electric seat locks (only offered on power lock equipped cars) The idea was that when you opened the door, the seat would automatically unlatch for you, so you didn't have to unlatch it manually. ..OK, I miss that option too. :( But if I meet somebody who has the option, I will say I got the option with the handles :Brow: :Brow: )
    WC2 X4 REAR BODY MOLDINGS 477 22.07%
    Y51 W4 BODYSIDE MOLDINGS 1511 69.92%
    Y58 U4 MAP, TRUNK LIGHT/CLOCK 1708 79.04%
    BLACK INTERIOR - ALL 480 22.21%
     
  15. GoldBoattail455

    GoldBoattail455 462 -> TH400 -> Posi

    Does anyone know how many max-trac optioned Centurion convetibles were made in 1973? :Do No:
     

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