What is that piece of hinged steel for

Discussion in 'The Venerable Q-Jet' started by canuck buick, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. canuck buick

    canuck buick Silver Level contributor

    on the top of my secondaries for that holds them closed. I looked through Cliff R.s book and only see them on the odd one but can't find any notation for it or its use or how it works. On my old q jet this piece wasn't there . It is just above the vacuum and the secondarys won't open because of it?
     
  2. Cliff R

    Cliff R Well-Known Member

    What is the carburetor number? Got any pics of the part in question?......Cliff
     
  3. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    On top are the secondary AIR VALVES. There is long link, connected to the primary vacuum break, that holds the air valves closed while the engine is running at idle. That is normal. The secondary THROTTLE BLADES open as you floor the gas pedal, unless the choke is on. There is a secondary throttle lock out tab that prevents the secondary throttle blades from opening when the choke is on.

    If you are working the throttle, trying to make the AIR VALVES open, you won't see that. The engine has to be under load.
     
  4. Cliff R

    Cliff R Well-Known Member

    "Hinged" piece of steel? Sounds like the poster may be describing the 65-66 carburetors secondary system, that used a hinged steel part on the drivers side airflap to dampen the secondaries. A pic would be nice for these discussions......Cliff
     
  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Should be a 70 Q-jet Cliff. See this thread, http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.p...u-have-your-idle-screws-backed-out&highlight= I've tried to help him. Not sure I have.
     
  6. canuck buick

    canuck buick Silver Level contributor

    Thanks for the replys, . My car is in the shop getting a safety, I hope, but when I get it back I will post the carb #'s. I beleive the carb is for a 69 which is period correct for my 70. The hinged piece of steel is on the passenger side at the front of the secondarys keeping them locked in place but you can move it easily with your finger to allow them to open.
     
  7. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    That sounds like the secondary lockout that prevents the air valves from opening until the choke is fully open.

    Devon
     
  8. canuck buick

    canuck buick Silver Level contributor

    The part # is 7028240
     
  9. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    If you're referring to the mechanism labeled "lock-out" in this image from the chassis service manual, it's as I described above.

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    Devon
     
  10. canuck buick

    canuck buick Silver Level contributor

    Thanks Devon , thats exactly what it is. The carb that came on the car didn't come with this though and I noticed a lot don't. Just wondering why some have it and some don't.
     
  11. Cliff R

    Cliff R Well-Known Member

    They all have one, but it may be in a different location. Many had them on the main casting, choke side, and they keep the secondary throttle shaft from opening when the choke is engaged......Cliff
     

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