Bought a nice 455 engine last week great looking engine i found in the wrecking yard here in cali, removed it from a buick electra deuce and a quarter, these guys at pick n pull use a pink sometimes other color ball point pen/marker that is oil based this is like a fluorecent pink or crimson lake pink, well had my engine marked for warranty purposes took to the machine shop and had the engine hot tanked, problem was i forgot about the marker, engine ended up being cracked, so much for paying 400 bucks for it, a good employee told me to just buy the marker and remark it as they first stamp it and then mark it with paint, the thing is they wont accept it with just the stamp, it needs to be marked with that dang pen, know im set with 2 options loose the 400 bucks and keep most of the parts or buy a silly 20 dollar marker and mark it, the thing is i have not found the name for it, i know it by the visual description which is whiteout pen style, same body same tip except in a fluorecent pink or darker pink, i know it seems like a weird question but i know these pick n pull guys have yards throughout the good ole USA so someone must know what im talking about..
Here is a site that sells pink paint markers http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PARTPG=INSRAR2&PMAKA=319-3350&PMPXNO=19506731
My family owns a salvage yard. If someone brought in a block that had been dipped but still had our paint marker's markings on it- we would know something is up and the guy had marked on it himself (big no-no.) Personally I wouldnt give him his money back- he bought a used block that he picked out. However if he wasnt a prick about the situation I might give him a second block at a discounted price.
i have tried that but i just cant go up to them and ask them to let me borrow it, they will think of me as a thief trying to mark up everypart i have:laugh: ...maybe i will try going back there again and just buy another misc part and see if i can take a quick glance at the marker while their writing again, i will also try the marker you suggested ive already bout about 10 markers that were all different and non hit the color...thanks in advance, PS still looking
I dont understand the problem here - have you tried contacting them and telling them the motor they sold you was cracked ? Why choose deception as a first course of action ?
Don't you have a receipt from the yard? I wouldn't try to "fool" them, be straight up about it, & look for a deep disc on a replacement.
:gp: i picked up a transmission from a salvage yard with a 30 day warranty. it was well past the 30 days when i finally got around to installing it and turned out to be crap. i called them up, explained that it hadnt been in the car and they replaced it no problem. they even came out and delivered a "new" transmission and took the old one with no cost at all. bottom line is you will get a lot further if youre honest.
:gp: Agreed Besides, like Cullen said, you're going to mark on a cleaned/tanked block. It will be obvious to them (or anyone) that the markings aren't theirs and they will think you are up to something. o No:
Yep that is exactly what i said, but i personally went down there, since all you know they have no phone numbers to call directly to their junkyard, i explained everything to them, i told them the block was bad after hot tank, and i told them the heads were good, i asked what the best thing for me to do, they said i should take all of the block complete including the heads, so i did, when they saw the block the main gate guy told me it was missing the paint from the engraving, i told him it was hot tanked, he said they could not take it inn, because i guess the deal was that in the receit, which i do have, has a color coded ink that has to match the block, thats the way they tell when it was purchased, i then went back into the sales desk and told them the story they then told me to just go ahead and mark it and that would solve the problem, but i cannot now since i dont have the marker, i will try going back to see if some nice person marks it for me and takes it inn, hope the first guy that said no is not there, otherwise i will have to hunt again for another 455:ball:
Another thought. Get the VIN number from the block & see if it matches the VIN number of the car the engine was pulled from. Then there is NO question where the engine came from. Being in a 225 I'll almost be willing to bet it was the original.
Since it sounds like the people working the sales desk believed you, why couldn't they tell the gate keeper that it was ok to let you bring it back in? Or, have one of them come out to your car with the proper colored pen and mark the block to humor the "None shall pass" guy at the gate. When you say it is stamped, was it just an ink pad stamp that is also gone after hot tanking? Or an actual stamped impression on the block to identify it?
this comes down to the law. I'm no lawyer but I believe the law is on your side on this one. If it had a warranty that covered cracks and it's cracked, they need to cover the warranty even if their stupid paint marker is missing from the surface. It's pretty obvious that you're not going to find cracks until after the block has been cleaned. No one wants to handle a greasy block. Like it was mentioned above, if the vin on the block matches a car in their yard and you have a receipt, it would be very hard for them to prove you wrong. Do not try deception. Find the owner and try talking. If that doesn't work you send the owner a nice letter restating everything that has happened and what you want and that if they don't honor the warranty you'll be filing a complaint in small claims court. Include copies of your receipt, the pics of the 225 vin and the receipt from the shop stating the block was cracked. The first thing I'd do is get down there ASAP and make sure the 225 is still there and get some pics of the vin and the car in their yard before it gets crushed. Hopefully a lawyer on this board can help you.
