Under dash and Factory gauges together?

Discussion in 'Sparky's corner' started by racngrn, Mar 22, 2009.

  1. racngrn

    racngrn Well-Known Member

    Hello, I once saw a posting that dealt with the how tos associated with keeping your factory gauges and running under dash updated gauges as well. Al of my gauges work in the car, but it scares me not to be sure with a nice set of mechanical Auto Meters under the dash. Can I leave my factory gauges active and run these? Will I need to use the electrical Auto Meter gauges to do both at once ( that may be ok as well). I appreciate the help..
     
  2. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    :gp: watching...
     
  3. SCOTTFISHER

    SCOTTFISHER Well-Known Member

    I have auto guages also hooked up.
    Just to be on the safe side i would disconnect the ones in the cluster.
    You said they are all working, so you don't want to destroy them inadvertanly.
    Thanks


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    Last edited: Mar 22, 2009
  4. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    I run them both. I had to get an elbow that I could tap into for the oil pressure switch line. The temp gauge I used the factoory port on the front passenger side of the intake. I put the factory temp sender in the hole where the vacuum port screwed in and just do not use it anyway. I had to use a connector and extend the factory wire a bit to reach. I got some ral nice auto meter gauges that have red needles and white writing. They match factory gauges perferect. The under dash do not not interfere with the stock at all and they all work. The facory port where the vacuum valve is veryo shallow so I could not fit aftermarket sender there.
     
  5. V8Sky

    V8Sky "Scarlett"

    >>Hi Dave,
    I had a question or two as I now have my a-pillar dual pod gauge holder and 2 1/16 Autometer super comp II electric gauges (water temp and oil pressure). I have an elbow now for the oil pressure for the factory rally gauge - did you use a T fitting to attach both oil sending units? Also, do you have a pic of where you rerouted the wires when you removed the vacuum port (with the three port vacuum piece). My '71 350 4bbl has the three port piece with the wires hooked up and I just wasn't sure where to reroute them when I remove it.
     
  6. SCOTTFISHER

    SCOTTFISHER Well-Known Member

    Copperhead is right.

    Do you have a tach in your cluster, or a clock?
    That thing seems to be very sensitive....
     
  7. James P

    James P Founders Club Member

    Chris. I used a short adapter out to a tee for my oil pressure sending units. I put the Autometer unit straight out and the factory unit off the 90. Hope that helps.
     
  8. racngrn

    racngrn Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the help and advice. Where would I get the adapter and tee fitting to run both the stock and aftermarket oil pressure gauges? Right now, my car has a funky "L" fitting that the factory sending unit screws into. NOt sure if that is the stock fitting or if the oem sending unit simply used to screw into the block directly. Th vacuum switch port on th eintake should work fine as recmmended and I already have the vac advance direct to the carb. Thanks, Steve
     
  9. V8Sky

    V8Sky "Scarlett"

    >>Thanks for this info Jim!
     
  10. James P

    James P Founders Club Member

    I found mine at Pep boys. But any auto parts store should have them in stock. They're fairly common fittings.
     
  11. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    Ive been looking for a oil pressure sender and I may try to do the same thing here so I can have the dash gauge and under dash gauge working together.

    But I cannot find it anywhere
    Rock Auto only lists them for a light, and Autozone lists them for aftermarket gauges...

    any recommendation on either of these?

    http://www.autozone.com/autozone/catalog/accessories/accessoriesShelf.jsp?categoryDisplayName=Performance&fromType=accessories&fromString=search&parentId=cat10034&filterByKeyWord=oil+pressure+sender&currentPage=1&navValue=101439&categoryNValue=100008&fromWhere=&subPartId=prod12406&itemId=prod12406&displayName=Gauge+Sender

    Also, since the under dash gauge is hooked with that plastic line, I want to replace it with copper. Does the factory gauge hook up the same way? With a copper line? What size? Any help or parts list would be appreciated :beers2:
     
  12. SCOTTFISHER

    SCOTTFISHER Well-Known Member


    I have copper line in both the Vacuum and the oil lines to my guages.

    You can get it @ any Auto parts emporium.
    Here we have Pep Boys, Auto zone, O' Reileys and Advance.
    I have not seen them at Napa.

    It's usually hanging up on those pegboard type shelves.
    It comes complete with the small swagelock fittings and ferruules.

    Good choice!
     
  13. James P

    James P Founders Club Member

    Curtis, the factory gauges are electric; no tubing. I'm not sure if the sending units are readliy available or not. The tubing for mechancal gauges is 1/8". Summit has a copper 6' tube kit here.
     
  14. tstyles

    tstyles Well-Known Member

  15. V8Sky

    V8Sky "Scarlett"

    I order my Autometer electric temp and oil pressure gauge from a guy on ebay and they come complete with wiring and the temperature sending unit and oil sending unit.
     
  16. racngrn

    racngrn Well-Known Member

    Thanks to all. Good discussion and help.

    Chris, I notice you have an N25 bumper with 2.5 exhaust. Did you purchase new tips or was there another trick to get the factory 2inch tips to be usable?? Thanks, Steve
     
  17. V8Sky

    V8Sky "Scarlett"

    >>Hi Steve,
    The N25 tips I have are new repros from The Parts Place and they are the stock size not 2.5. I had my local muffler shop use a reducer on the ends of the tailpipes so the repro N25 tips would fit. Any muffler shop should have a reducer to do this job.
     
  18. racngrn

    racngrn Well-Known Member

    Thanks. I've considered making it true 2.3 all the way out, but the tiips are pricey and my original 2 inch tips are nice. I'm actually running the stock 2 inch tail pipes right now with 2.5 inch all the way to the muffler. Not ideal, but ok. Thanks, Steve
     

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