suspension shims?

Discussion in 'Wrenchin' Secrets' started by geeweezie, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. geeweezie

    geeweezie Well-Known Member

    Can not having enough shims cause my wheels to lean in at the top
     
  2. geeweezie

    geeweezie Well-Known Member

    The shims on the control arms in ment
     
  3. carmantx

    carmantx Never Surrender

    Yea, you need to get your front end aligned. The shims are placed during alignment to get the proper caster/camber.
     
  4. geeweezie

    geeweezie Well-Known Member

    What's caster / camber
     
  5. photobugz

    photobugz 1965 Skylark

  6. carmantx

    carmantx Never Surrender

    Basically, the three things for "aligning" your front tires.
    Camber
    Caster
    Toe-in.

    Caster/Camber defined above. Toe in is the adjustment to make sure your tires are pointed straight down the road, and are not further apart on the front side, than they are on the back side.

    The proper alignment will have your car ride better, and less wear on the tires.
     
  7. geeweezie

    geeweezie Well-Known Member

    So would i be correct in saying that the shims are what really makes the tire lean top to bottom?
     
  8. storie585

    storie585 Well-Known Member

    your lower control arm bushing could be shot...
     
  9. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...or weak front springs...camber goes negative as springs compress...
     
  10. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    when i r/r my front suspension on my '71 gs, i tossed all the adjusting shims into a bin. the i realized that that was a mistake. fortunately i was able to retrieve them as few days later.

    i have an old high school shop class textbook, circa 1961, that called toe-in, callup? ever hear of that?
     
  11. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    Ahhh...mystery solved. You just need to get ft end aligned...or if you have proper equipment, do it yourself. Not simply a matter of sticking in shims until wheel "vertical." Different # shims used at each location to also adjust caster. Anytime anything replaced in ft end should have re-aligned, since over years intermediate alignments adjust for wear...
     
  12. jlhamblin

    jlhamblin Jeff Hamblin

    assuming the tires are in at the top or knock kneed, you can't add shims and you can only take out so many then theres none left.
    there are offset upper shafts to correct some. 1st make sure everything in frt end is in good condition, ball joints, bushings, and be sure to check ride height. the next step if offset shafts won't correct have frame rails spread by someone that knows what their doing! alignment must be offset to componsate for road crown, if you change ride height very much, bump steer and turning inclination can be affected, a car that doesn't handle well is no fun to drive, make sure things are done correctly,, good luck
     

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