Super Turbine Kick Down

Discussion in 'The "Juice Box"' started by skylarkvert, May 9, 2005.

  1. skylarkvert

    skylarkvert Member

    Hi, my 1966 Skylark with 340 and Super Turbine transmission won't downshift on it's own unless speed is very slow. If I hit the gas to pass or speed up after a turn, she stays in drive. Is there an electric switch that should kick it down?

    Thanks!
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    You probably have the ST-300, 2 speed trans. Is it a switch pitch? I know the ST-400 from those years do not have a 3-2 valve in the trans valve body. As a result they only have a full throttle kickdown. Also the valvebody tends to keep the trans in high gear, so the car accelerates on the converter(high stall of the switchpitch)

    There should be an electrical conection on the drivers side of the trans. When it gets 12 volts, it activates a solenoid inside the pan to downshift the trans.
     
  3. skylarkvert

    skylarkvert Member

    ST 300 kickdown

    Yes, I have the 2 speed. I don't know if it is a switch pitch; is that when the vane pitch can be changed?

    Even at full throttle she won't kick down. There is a switch of some sort on the throttle linkage next to the carb. Wires go from that switch back to the trans area, is that the switch for the solenoid?

    I looked underneath and saw two wires terminating on spade connectors on the driver's side of the tranny just above the pan, is this the solenoid?

    Thanks!
     
  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    OK, you have a switch pitch. The 2 wires on the drivers side of the trans, are the kickdown and stator connections. The spade that runs vertical is the kickdown, the spade that runs horizontal is the stator connection. There are 2 wires inside the pan that lead to 2 seperate solenoids, one for the switch pitch, one for the kickdown. When 12 volts is applied to the stator connector, you get high stall, take away the 12 volts, low stall. When 12 volts are applied to the kickdown connection, the trans will downshift under the right conditions. The solenoids are inside the front pump(stator), and inside the pan (kickdown). Pull off the connectors(keep track of which is which). Run a temporary wire from the + side of the battery, and touch the wire to each connector on the trans. You should hear a distinct click emanating from the pan area for each connector. If you don't, either the solenoid(s) are bad, or the wiring inside the pan is at fault. If you do hear a click, then the problem may be the throttle mounted switches on the carburetor linkage. There job is to pass 12 volts to the right connectors at the correct time. The converter should be in high stall at idle, then go to low stall off idle, then go back to high stall at over 60% throttle. The trans should kick down at full throttle. Do a little testing with a test light to see where and when you get 12 volts. Hope that helps.
     
  5. skylarkvert

    skylarkvert Member

    Thanks! I'll test the solenoids/circuits this weekend.

    Yancy

     
  6. skylarkvert

    skylarkvert Member

    OK, I found the wires to the switches on the side of the tranny disconnected at the accelerator linkage! I reconnected them and the car shifts like it is supposed to! Looks like some PO disconnected the power to the downshift/switch pitch in order to connect the electric choke. Don't know why anyone would leave them disconnected?

    Thanks for your help!
     

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