I would like to see if anyone has some pictures of the shorty stage2 headers,on an engine,in a car, that I could see. I am mostly looking at the part where the pipes bolt up. Are they more straight down or angled back? I am thinking of using them with my iron stage 2 heads. I have e-mailed TA several timesand even a distributor of theirs. The dist replies and cannot get pictures from them either. I will probably buy some,but want to check it out alittle more. Thanks, Mike Nussell