I was just wanting to know if any one has tried these in their factory suspended cars?I'm looking @ the wolfe products.They have sperical upper rear housing mounts that are ( in theory) susposed to free up the rear suspension.My question is will this cause the suspension to load & unload during a 1/4 mile pass??The wolfe upper control arms have a sperical rod end on the front combined with the rear sperical mount - just seems like alot of movement for a g body car running 10.20s @130.Any info or posts on this factory suspension stuff would be really appreciated. kirkm o No:
I plan on installing their rear end bearings in a couple of weeks. I am using Edelbrock upper arms that have spherical bearings as well. I'd call Wolfe and speak with them. They have set up some very fast cars, and seem to know their stuff.
You won't have a problem with them.We have run them on a few mustangs and some g body stuff with no issues.You will want to get in there and clean them every once and a while.
I use the Currie lowers and Edelbrock uppers. The new Edelbrock lowers are spherical at the frame. Global West claims this will still bind but I am not seeing this. My car is 99% street so cannot say how it will work at the track but I love the setup. This setup will easily outperform a poly bushed setup and ride a bunch better also. I like the Currie and Edelbrock because the sphere is mounted in poly giving the best of both worlds.
Global West is referring to Poly bushings. They have to be. Spherical bearings don't bind. I plan on using GW lowers with my current set up.
Andrew, I agree with your but here is what GW has on their site. Global West "That is why our rear lower control arm kits use a spherical bearing installed on the frame side. Second if you put spherical bearings on the upper control arm and mimic the bottom control arm you would have full suspension travel with no bind. No I'm afraid not. In fact we put bearings on both ends of the control arm and still ran into suspension bind." As I said before I run sphericals at the frame on both upper and lower and think it is the right thing to do. Now I do not have their experience but on my car I do not think binding is happening. When I put in the new rear end I was able to put a jack under one side of the axle and jack the end up farther than it would ever go with springs in. Did not have any way to measure the force but it did not seem to bind. So in this case I am not sure that GW is totally correct. If someone shows me the data I will change my position but right now I agree that the spherical bindings take the bind out of the suspension. I also do not agree with them about not running a rear sway bar. I know that we never ran them on our circle track street stock cars but there we were using asymetrical chassis setups for left turns only. Some real smart guys at a whole bunch of car manufactures run rear sway bars. In fact I doubt that there is a car company in the world that does not use rear anti sway bars on most of there vehicles. I do think that there are better rear sway bar designs than what we have now and would like to try them especially since I run larger rear tires.
The Edelbrock uppers look like they would be good. I have also been looking at the Jeg's rear control arms...pretty interesting design. Check 'em out. http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=88861&prmenbr=361
A sperical bearing will bind but the load required to do so is much much higher than a bushing of any sort.Look at every pro car built they all have heim-sperical bearings and they don't bind so you tell me what gw is saying I don't get it.
sperical bushings & tubular braces?????? I would like to thank all you guys on your replys and knowledge.I also believe in the sperical bushings working the best for what we have to work with-(factory 4-links).Wolferacecraft does have some of the fastest stock suspension cars out there...I'm going w/ a complete set-up with single adjustable lowers & double adjustable uppers and the spericals in the housing.I do have a really BIG question for every gearhead out there.Here goes.Why do all the big name manufactures - wolferacecraft - team z - upr products - baselinesuspension -not show a tubular brace that connects the front mounts of the upper & lower control arms together??? (some of this stuff is mustange only parts) yea i know,but it's still a factory 4-link car.Why does edelbrock - dick miller racing - hoshkis -etc. have this for our cars???Dose someone know something the others don't.And could this brace hurt or help our 1/4 performance.I'm not one for corner carving just straightline maximum performance.HELP! kirkm
This is a stock item on many GM-A bodies (stamped not tubular.) Also available from Edelbrock and I think Hotchkis. I have the Edelbrocks. Cannot think of a reason not to have them.
