Hey there. I am looking for advice on my carpet project. I have removed the old carpet, all of the originla sound deadener and plan to use POR -15 on the entire floorpan as a precautionary measure. Floor is solid and original. Once the POR is on and dry, should I use a sound deadener or rely on the jute ( or even an extra layer of jute)? I've read all the sound deadening threads I could find, but don't really see a clear trend on this issue. We don't have really hot weather up here in Maine and I would not be driving the car those days anyway. If I go with a Dyno mat or RAAM product, will it adhere well to the POR-15? I really appreciate the advice so I do this right the first time. Thanks, Steve
It will adhear but why use the por15 for the floor if it is already painted? That paint is made to use on a rough surface. Not on paint. Other paint will adhear better to the org. paint better than the por15. That factory primer/paint should be left on the metal if the floor is in good shape. I have used por15 on a blasted frame and under a bare body but was down to bare metal then both etched with phosphoric acid then the por Metal Ready and rinsed, used 3 coats of por15 and before dry topcoated. This is the only way I will use it and not on rust either. The rust will come back. Ray
Ray, thanks. I had always heard that the POR 15 product was ideal for floopan applications and a very good product for sealing exposed or even lightly rusted metals. Most of my floor is painted/primered from the factory and I would tend to leave as is. It's only the few areas I wire brushed to remove light surface rust. I agree, factory primer is best left untouched. Any thoughts on sound proofing? Thanks, Steve
purchase and install the board and jute backing for behind the rear seat to better isolate the trunk.
I used B-Quiet Extreme and am very happy with the results. It's WAY better than just the jute backing. http://www.b-quiet.com/ Jeff ~
I used DynaMat on the floors and the rear seat devider. It made a huge difference. The car interior is much quieter, and it keeps the heat out as well.
I used Hushmat from Jegs. It seemed to be the Jegs brand of dynamat. A bit less expensive. Went down nice and seems to be getting the job done.
Dyno mat is very expensive :: I found this stuff is almost the same if not better , Did my whole car for under $100 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fatm...id=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65:12|39:1|72:1171
Is that the kit that you used? I've been looking at the FATMAT stuff and was wondering how much is actually required to adequately cover the interior? I figure the firewall, floorpans, back seat and package tray, maybe the inner door skins. I was looking at the paintable stuff for the roof and maybe the vertical surfaces like the doors. I don't want to add 100lbs unnecessarily if I can.
No not the kit i used i got the one listed below 100 sq ft I still have to do my doors but have about 1/2 a roll left http://cgi.ebay.com/100-FatMat-Xtre...id=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=|293:1|294:30
I did not do my roof with it thought it might not stick well enough and might fall down .Although i think one of the aftermarket parts places sell a roof insulation kit i might look into ,i did fire wall floors up the back seat package tray , This stuff is very comperable to DYNO MAT at 1/3 rd the price ,When igot my kit it was only $99 It molds nice flexable and sticky back , I am not done with my car still at the pain shop for another 2 weeks to cure and cut and buff , Then i plan to put down som Juke and then carpet , I feel it should realy improve the quiet ride and the heat , Specialy Down here in South Florida , Not to mention Black interior,
I wouldn't use the mat on the roof. There are several paint-able products out there for that. They should have better adhesion, but I'm not sure that they are 100% needed for my application.
Update. I ended up getting a product called "Zilla Mats" on ebay. Took a risk, but it really is very impressive.I ordered a 50 sq ft kit ( mat, roller) and got a 70 sq ft kit mailed. Cool. It is very tacky and very pliable. Just like Dynamat and Fatmat with alum surface and black tacky medium. It was a total of $90 shipped and is more than enough to do the entire floorpan. The roller is junk ( broke at the half way mark), but a cheap walpaper roller made of wood would be fine and last the duration. Pretty satisfied so far. I am half way done and then carpet can go down. Hoping that my 4 speed carpet install is easier than most I've read about. Getting there slowly. Plenty of rain to make me feel ok about the downtime. Later, Steve
I'm curious: How much does 50 sq ft of dynamat or these other brands weigh? How much weight is being added to the car?
I know that I'm bad but every time I'm looking through the "new posts" and I see the title of this thread I can't help but to think of ways to keep the wife quiet on the drive. Engine noise good, wife complaining about whatever, or even just distracting me from listening to the engine, bad. Maybe it's just that after 20 years you know that you can tune a car for a nice pleasant sound, but any attempt to modify the wife will only result in more, and louder sounds!
As we know, even duct tape is temporary. I have a question about the carpet instal over teh dynamat -like surface. Should I use adhesive since its very slippery without it ( compared to the stock asphalt like stuff or even jute)? Seems like the carpet will want to travel a lot if I don't. I thought of adding a layer of jute, but same problem will occur with the jute. What have others done ?? Thanks , Steve
Good question I planed to spray adhesive the Fat Mat i used and put down Jute in the main floor areas, then the carpet , the Jute should keep the carpet from riding up or moving around once it is in place
