Shell V-Power gas - Worth the hype?

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Freedster, Jul 2, 2004.

  1. Freedster

    Freedster Registered User (2002)

    Had a friend ask me about the stuff. I couldn't find much on the web about it besides the usual corporate press release fluff, and a test in a car magazine from Germany.

    Anyone know anything about it? Are you getting anything worthwhile for the extra $0.03 per gallon over the cost of premium?

    - Freed
     
  2. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member

    I haven't even heard about it yet. Is it supposed to be like E-85?
     
  3. Freedster

    Freedster Registered User (2002)

  4. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member




    After reading through a bunch of articles, it looks like it's their racing gas (which has to be 95% the same as gas bought on the street) but they dropped the octane and threw some detergents in. They sure are promoting it though, million dollars worth of advertising. I've found an entire page full of replies to a question about v-power but, however, I can't read whatever language it's in, maybe some of our foriegn friends can translate. (http://www.audiv8.com/forum/search.php?Cat= Just do a search for "v-power.)
     
  5. CIT

    CIT Poweraddict, help me

    We have had this gas for a year or two, but they still need to advertise to get people to buy it.
    I say it's a hype, nothing else

    ADAC, germany's biggest independent motorclub, testet it and got a MAX 3% increase in power on EFI cars, nothing on carb cars.
    Guess they say its a hype, too
     
  6. bobc455

    bobc455 Well-Known Member

    I will say that pump gas (in the US) does not have the same "oomph" that it used to. MBTE might (I said might) be cleaner-burning, but it takes away from the power you get from the combustion cycle. Your average soccer mom will never notice the difference, but a few tenths might come off at the track, compared to several years ago.

    My favorite way of improving on the fuel is filling up with pump gas and adding a gallon of toluene and a gallon of xylene. These help increase the amount of energy in the fuel (in addition to raising the octane rating), so you will get more HP. (Depending on your engine, you might also be able to get some more timing, for an even better HP gain.)

    There does come a point when you need to consider using race fuel, but I'm not at that level of engine.

    Is this product worth it? I have never used it, but there is definitely some room for improvement in today's pump gas.

    -Bob Cunningham
     
  7. Gumby

    Gumby Guest


    How?
    Why?
    how much?
    Details plz for us who don't know about chemicals you can add to gas or chemicals you can mix to make gas.
     
  8. Freedster

    Freedster Registered User (2002)

    That octane boost they sell at gas stations is mostly Xylene or toluene anyway. It won't harm your car. They're part of the volitile organic compounds they put into spray paint, and either is a good paintbrush cleaner as well. Sold at most hardware stores by the gallon.

    The turbo boys have been using this stuff for years to boost octane. Check out the turbo board for more info than you ever wanted on the topic:

    http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/se...d=814451&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

    If I'm remembering correctly, it has an octane around 117 when used as a motor fuel. To figure out what your octane is, you just average out the total octane of everything you added to your tank. For example, say you have 6 gallons of 92 octane in there already, and you add in 3 gallons of Xylene:

    ( (6 gallons 92 octane) + (3 gallons 117 octane) / 9 total gallons = Avg. Octane of each gallon
    ( (6 x 92) + (3 x 117) ) / 9 = Avg. Octane of each gallon
    ( (552) + (351) ) / 9 = Avg. Octane of each gallon
    (903) / 9 = 100.3 Avg. Octane

    Generally, people that do this advocate adding in some Marvel Mystery Oil along with the Xylene to substitute for Xylene's lack of motor fuel additives and lubricants.

    All of this essentially holds true for Toluene as well, though I'm not sure what it's Octane rating is.

    Hope that clarifies things.

    - Freed
     
  9. GoldBoattail455

    GoldBoattail455 462 -> TH400 -> Posi

    Just saw a TV commercial, didnt state anything except it's clean and better for the environment.
     
  10. Gumby

    Gumby Guest

    Whats the average price for Xylene or toluene by the gallon???
     
  11. Bad Boattail

    Bad Boattail Guest

    It's for sale in the Netherlands, but all my cars are running on LPG, so no personal experience here.

    But I hear a lot of good stuff about this petrol, cars are running more KM to the litre. But maybe that's because people are aware of the new stuff and start driving in a different way as they "test" the new fuel ?
     
  12. Freedster

    Freedster Registered User (2002)

    I'd call your local Lowe's/Home Despot/Menards/Ace Hardware/Wal-Mart and see what they want for it. Most DIY paint shops sell it in one and five gallon jugs. I'd also call a local Sherwin-Williams store because you can order it in 50-gallon jugs there on the cheap, and I've heard of some that sell it bulk by the gallon.

    - Freed
     

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