series 2 or 3 differences?

Discussion in 'Got gears?' started by sevv, Aug 2, 2005.

  1. sevv

    sevv Well-Known Member

    Other than the you have to use the spacer with a 2 series, are they any real differences between a 2 or 3 series? Is one stronger than the other?

    I have been looking for a posi unit to purchase and install in my 3.08 one legger, but some of these prices for used units are crazy.

    Thanks, Scott
     
  2. D BERRY

    D BERRY 72 Skylark 2 DR POST

    Scott

    Go to this site http://www.buickperformance.com/page1.htm there's a great article on how to find posi units in the junk yards and how to remove them. I found two last year in about six trips. I'm just the opposite of you I've got the posi and looking for the rearend.

    Dave Berry
     
  3. GStage1

    GStage1 Always looking for parts!

    2 and 3 series operate the same so basically no difference between them.
     
  4. sevv

    sevv Well-Known Member


    Thanks Dave!

    I have read the article before and we seem to be dried up around me. I have been looking at Ebay.

    Scott
     
  5. sevv

    sevv Well-Known Member

    Thanks, George!
     
  6. oPh

    oPh Well-Known Member

    Little price comparison to rebuild "S" spring 8.5 posi:

    unknown cond used #9 posi carrier from e-Bay, lets say $85....$105 shipped.

    Side clutch shims are discoed from GM,
    with wear on side gears & spiders,
    need to be able to shim up the clutchs tight,
    for posi to work the best...
    make my own shims, something for the effort...........................$45

    New box of GM clutchs.........................................................$85
    (if one can get them this cheap)

    So far, we're at $235...& still no ring gear spacer & hardened washers :(

    Summit 8.5 ring gear spacer & pkg of
    Mr Gasket SBC head bolt washers (need 10 out of the pack)........$45

    So far am at $280, far from the original $85 selling price.
    Also need to consider, did not buy a 300 lb "S" spring or figure any $ for loctite needed when tightening ring gear spacer bolts. The new Eaton 8.5's are starting to look really attractive...

    Moral... Hunting & hunting for used "S" spring 8.5 posis is all fun & good, but they better be cheap, esp if high ratio units. Just a little something from rebuilding hundreds of these posi carriers. 90% of em, used, need new clutchs & shimmed up tight for high performance use. By the mid 90's, I was gutting prob 2 out 3 of the high ratio 8.5 "S" spring posis I came across in Pick-n-Pulls, crusher yards, etc, just for good posi side gears & occasional good clutchs. Some may think that is/was crazy, but one new posi side gear would run $90 at the dealer & occasionally, side gears were spalled in low ratio carriers I had setting on the bench. Object at the time was to source & rebuild as many low ratio posi carriers as possible, use #9 carriers with spacers only, when cars was a putt-a-round cruiser. Still holds true today, but buy many more new posi carriers.

    Gotta run.

    Roger
     

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