Quadrajet question

Discussion in 'The Venerable Q-Jet' started by Steve Yager, Apr 2, 2023.

  1. Steve Yager

    Steve Yager The Mistress

    Plus, I guess my question would be, how big of a difference would a 455 carb make compared to a 350 carb on the 445?
     
  2. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    Look down into the secondaries (opening the top lid) and see if the secondaries are opening all the way when you bottom the pedal.
     
  3. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    My experience is the carbs are the same. the metering rods and jetting are different.
     
  4. bostoncat68

    bostoncat68 Platinum Level Contributor

    To me, before you start swapping parts -- I would fiddle extensively with what's in place. You have a known good starting point (not perfect but good). Make individual adjustments to determine if any impact performance. As an example, the default timing might be an easy place to start.
     
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  5. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    Take it to Jason for a super tune ;)
     
  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    The biggest difference by far is in the idle system of the carburetor. A 455 needs more air at idle than a 350 does. 455 carbs frequently have what's called the Fixed Idle Air Bypass. It supplies extra air at idle so the throttle plates can be nearly closed at idle. The primary side of the Quadrajet is so efficient that if the throttle blades are too far open, it can initiate fuel flow from the Main nozzles. Commonly called "Nozzle Drip", this results in the carburetor NOT running on the idle system, but on the mains, resulting in a overly rich idle mixture, eye burning exhaust smell, and a stumble off idle.

    Starting in 1971, all Buick Big Block carburetors were 800 CFM. They had a visibly larger primary outer venturi, and they were jetted richer for that reason.
     
  7. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    That is significant.
     
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  8. Steve Yager

    Steve Yager The Mistress

    I have just noticed in playing around with this, the arm above the fuel plunger on the carb is about a quarter inch above the plunger. Is that right?
     
  9. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    You mean the accelerator pump stem?

    Quadrajet Carburetor.JPG
     
  10. Steve Yager

    Steve Yager The Mistress

  11. Steve Yager

    Steve Yager The Mistress

    Also I have a 3/4 inch spacer under the carb. Is that an issue. Basically to raise the air cleaner up enough to clear the hei distributor.
     
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  12. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    The spacer is not a problem, but the gap above the accelerator pump plunger is.
     
  13. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    So there is a gap between the arm and stem? That's No Bueno.

    It can reduce the signal from the carburetor. Not every engine likes a spacer.
     
  14. Steve Yager

    Steve Yager The Mistress

  15. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    That's not right. Not knowing the history of that carburetor, I'd find another.
     
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  16. Steve Yager

    Steve Yager The Mistress

    Yeah, I just noticed that.
    Not sure why it's like that.
     
  17. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    You can drive out the roll pin at the pivot and put the link into the inner hole. That might bring the arm down, but the stem even looks a bit short. Maybe it has the wrong accelerator pump in it?
     
  18. Dadrider

    Dadrider Silver Level contributor

    Or the pump plunger is stuck down near the bottom of the stroke. Maybe the return spring is broken… or missing…..
     
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  19. Steve Yager

    Steve Yager The Mistress

    Spring is broken
     
  20. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    That is certainly an issue causing low power at take off.
     
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