Quadrajet choke

Discussion in 'The Venerable Q-Jet' started by bw1339, Feb 12, 2023.

  1. bw1339

    bw1339 Well-Known Member

    Hello,
    The QJ I have in my '66 Olds does not have a vacuum break for the choke. Choke closes when cold, but looking at it, I get the impression that engine vacuum overcomes it too easily when first started, which defeats the purpose of the choke.

    My question is - Does the vacuum break open the choke under high vacuum, or prevents it from vacuum overpowering the choke?
    Thanks.
     
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  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    The primary vacuum break opens the choke against thermostatic spring tension. If it did not, the engine would load up and stall. You can watch it work in this video,





    There was also the secondary choke break at the rear of the carburetor which has a delayed action and opens the choke blade a bit more.

    The primary vacuum break also slows down the secondary air valve opening. Without it, most engines will bog when transitioning to the secondaries.

    QJetChoke.JPG
     
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  3. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    It keeps the choke from opening too far once it fires. There is a spec in the service manual for it.
     
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  4. bw1339

    bw1339 Well-Known Member

    Thank you guys!
     
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  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Here is the 66 Buick Chassis Manual page. The primary choke break is built into the choke housing. It's function is the same.

    66QJetChoke.JPG
     
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  6. bw1339

    bw1339 Well-Known Member

    Thank you Larry.
     
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  7. bw1339

    bw1339 Well-Known Member

    I got a later (80s) QJ to rebuild, since I wanted to experiment with the APT.

    At light throttle everything is good, but at heavier throttle (before secondaries open), engine falls on its face and A/F ratio goes super lean.

    I retained the original primary rods/jets, as well as the original power piston spring. Power piston moved freely when I assembled it. Besides a sticky power piston, what else could it be? I blew compressed air through all the passages and everything seemed clear.

    Thanks.
     
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  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Every QJ built was calibrated for the specific engine and year it was built for. You can't do a basic rebuild on any QJ and expect it to run right. It might take more than jets and rods to calibrate it correctly. I would think any 80's QJ is calibrated too lean to begin with.

    What is the part number? What was the original application?
     
  9. bw1339

    bw1339 Well-Known Member

  10. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Probably for a small block. It will be all wrong for your 66 Olds engine. Send it to Ken Gies. He can re calibrate it for you.
     
  11. bw1339

    bw1339 Well-Known Member

    Thank you, but I'm trying to learn (I have Cliff Ruggles book). Any suggestions?
     
  12. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  13. bw1339

    bw1339 Well-Known Member

    Thank you
     

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