Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, There are so many other sites getting together to try to participate in this, I was wondering what it would take to be competitive ? The rules are pretty straight-forward. PHR Engine Masters Rules As a matter of fact, I think that us Pure Stock and Stock Appearing guys may have a *one-up* on some of these other guys. The rules for the Challenge offer some obvious modifications, but also have some limitations that we all have had to work with for years now. I really wonder how much HP would get you in *the running* for this ? What would be the best SB to build ? SB Mopar, SB Ford, SB Chevy, SB Olds, god-forbid - - SB Buick ? A lot of these groups get so caught up in their brand-loyalty crap, that they get in their brands' *rut*, and don't think "outside the box"..... (GOD, I hate that phrase, but it works for this explanation .....) ou: I wonder if all of us could get along long enough to put something together that would be competitive ? We would have a niche that no other group could claim. We'd have involvement from ALL makes and walks of life, with one combo. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ........ o No: :Brow:
If I was going to choose a "small block" on a budget I would go with a 351 cleveland. It is hard to argue with 330cfm intake flow heads. I know what everybody says that they have no velocity, but that excuse is BS when port modifications are allowed. I can take a stock set of those heads and give them 50hp without touching them with a grinder. There are allot of good parts available for them. If I had more money I would build a windsor based ford with a good set of heads.
I know Richard Potter is trying to get some clarification on the rules - as to whether the Caddy engine can 'come and play'. He's hoping to be able to use the 6.0l (368") sized engine. HP #'s I've heard tossed around, are in the 1.4hp/ci range...that should be in the 600hp area.o No: Should prove interesting.:bglasses: :TU:
The SB Chev and Ford are the obvious winner just based on R&D and available parts. A 401 AMC might make a good underdog for this. Good parts are available, good dimensions, and good numbers can be had from the Indy SR Heads with a good porter I'll bet. Though I don't know if they can match an aftermarket SB Ford or Chev head. I'm sure the SB Dodge will make a good showing..
BTR Racing Bill Trovato of BTR racing (NY) has just teamed up with Earl Emery(Ohio) to build an Olds small block for the PHR challenge next year. Trovato is a genius at making Olds engines really fly and is a wildman pulling wheelies in his NSCA Starfire. He's been running in the 8's for quite a few years. Recent class change forced him to ditch his 331 inch Nascar block 350 upwards (I think it's up to a 403 cube now). Earl is a partner in the Emery & Clay Oldsmobiles from Delta, Ohio and brings a strong financial backing and a lot of racing history. This should really be interesting.
The interesting thing about the 2003 PHR engine challenge is rules. You would think that big ports are the right choice but when the power must be all do at 6500 rpm that really changes the combo. I don't know the rules for 2004 but the small block Mopar W-2 heads flow very well also. They are well over 300cfm modified. JIM
