Opinions please on tranny choice

Discussion in 'The "Juice Box"' started by jaystoy, Nov 26, 2008.

  1. jaystoy

    jaystoy Well-Known Member

    Okay, The TH350 in my 71 skylark went to the tranny graveyard. I have a mildly built 350 with 3.08 posi out back. Which is going to be better. I have a TH400 that I rebuilt on my own stock with a shift kit, I assume it works. Or my buddy is going to sell me a th350 he built that is strong and stout.So TH 400 or TH350. Which is better.
     
  2. Joe65SkylarkGS

    Joe65SkylarkGS 462 ina 65 Lark / GN

    If you plan on running the small block, the t350 is fine. But for strenght the 400 is the best out there.
     
  3. carmantx

    carmantx Never Surrender

    Yea, like Joe said. Turbo 400 should be tough and trouble free for you. For a mild build the turbo 350 should be fine too. I think the turbo 350 also has a lower first gear, which might make your car perform better.
    I used to drag race a BBC camaro with a turbo 350, and never broke it.
     
  4. jaystoy

    jaystoy Well-Known Member

    What is the difference between, or... what are the 1st and 2nd gear ratios between the 400 and 350?
     
  5. jaystoy

    jaystoy Well-Known Member

    A follow up to my previous question, what are the difference in driveshaft lengths?
     
  6. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    I can only answer your first question:

    TH350

    2.52:1
    1.52:1
    1:1

    TH400

    2.48:1
    1.48:1
    1:1

    Devon
     
  7. jaystoy

    jaystoy Well-Known Member

    Thanks Devon! In real world terms, how much do the difference in ratios affect performance. Would i really notice the difference? Someone help me with driveshaft length differences
     
  8. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    I doubt you'd ever be able to tell the difference between four hundredths in terms of ratio.

    If you use the search feature with the words th350 th400 driveshaft, you'll get some good reading.

    Devon
     
  9. rmstg2

    rmstg2 Gold Level Contributor

    The gear ratio in the 350 alone probably wouldn't make much difference. The combination of gear ratio, weight, the fact that it uses a little less horse power to turn might be noticable.:Do No:
    Bob H.
     
  10. jaystoy

    jaystoy Well-Known Member

    got the numbers I needed, Thanks guys. Are you saying it will take more hp to turn the TH400 with my 350 than the TH350? Has to be marginal right?
     
  11. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Again, you're right...marginal. The guys who are trying to eek out the last few hundredths of a second are going to spend some money to beef up a TH350 because of not just the lighter overall weight, plus lighter weight of the reciprocating parts. The aftermarket offers lighter stuff yet, for both trannys.

    I wouldn't make weight a serious consideration unless I was going racing big time. The weight difference is about 20 lbs wet if I recall? Maybe somebody remembers weighing the two.

    Devon
     
  12. jaystoy

    jaystoy Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I would agree with you Devon. The only racing this cr sees is the occasions tire spin at the light to put an ear to ear smile on my 4 year old! A young Buick lover in the making! Thanks guys, have a wonderful holiday
     
  13. steve covington

    steve covington Well-Known Member

    If car has 350 trans, you'd need to change unput yoke on driveshaft also, and get the kickdown switch and wiring required for the 400. Easier to stick with the 350 trans, as that is what it is already set up for.
     
  14. jaystoy

    jaystoy Well-Known Member

    Thanks Steve, but I have the complete pedal set-up with the switch, and the 400 input shaft.
     
  15. d2_willys

    d2_willys Well-Known Member

    Switch pitch 400 (ST400) from a 67 340 Buick? Might be interesting?:Comp:
     
  16. mygs462

    mygs462 Well-Known Member

    I was told by several gurus over the years it takes 22hp to run a turbo 350
    and 44 hp to run a 400 trans so you decide. behind a small block you would never need more that the 350 if its built right.
     
  17. bobc455

    bobc455 Well-Known Member

    As Jakeshoe has pointed out several times (probably to the point of exhaustion), the weight difference between the TH400 and TH350 reciprocating parts is negligible.

    And transmissions do not "consume" horsepower.

    Since you have a 350, a TH350 will probably be sufficient and serve a long, tough life. A TH400 would also work fine, but you'd have to change your driveshaft & yoke, probably move your crossmember, maybe change the speedometer gear in the TH400, and some other stuff. Personally, I'd leave well enough alone.

    Don't forget to check that your other TH350 is also a BOP bellhousing, not out of a Chevy.

    -Bob C.
     
  18. d2_willys

    d2_willys Well-Known Member

    Since most of the forums have mentioned the 200 4r overdrive transmission and that it should be little effort to retrofit into your Buick, perhaps you should be thinking that way. Heard it can be built to withstand big hp. They also have a uni bell, that will fit bop or chevy pattern.
    :rant:
     
  19. 54Rich

    54Rich Silver Level contributor

    +1, My GN will run all day at 70mph at 2000 rpm. That is with 3.42 rear. With a shift kit and a few hard parts it will easily handle a 350.:TU:
     
  20. exfarmer

    exfarmer Well-Known Member

    Bob, all transmissions consume HP, none of them are 100% efficient. That is one of the main reasons that rear wheel HP is lower than flywheel HP, the other power robber being the rear axle gears. I have also heard that TH400's consume 22hp more than TH350's so, unless you need the added "beef" stick with the TH350 or go with a 200r4 IMHO. Does the TH400 fit in the trans tunnel?
     

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