One common question, is a Riviera a muscle car?

Discussion in 'A boatload of fun' started by BlackRiv, Jun 13, 2005.

  1. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    All other things being equal if you think that a stock pre 70 Buick engine can run with a stock 70 455 you are just mistaken. It is just a fact that all other things being equal they will not whether you are talking top end or bottom end. A tuned 430 will be the closest to the 455.
     
  2. 3shields

    3shields Let's go, MOUNTAINEERS!!!


    I think it goes way past "SS" classification also. I had a 66 Chevy II SuperSport, 283, Powerglide, and YES, it was an original SS, And It DID have the correct engine in it. It DEFINATELY WAS NOT a musclecar. Now, had it had the 350 Horsepower 327, then that would have been a different story. Every classic definition I have read in magazines, and books over the years has led back the Horsepower/Weight ratio. With that said....How about a 409 Belair from 1962?

    John
     
  3. MR.BUICK

    MR.BUICK Guest

    While I agree with you on the facts Jim, I must disagree on the pre '70 thing. The '65 GS was pretty fast. It was small, had a big motor, and could hunt some other muscle cars. Can't really compare a 455 to much smaller like the 401 for instance, that's like comparing a 350 to a 231.

    And yes, I consider the Riv GS a muscle car.
     
  4. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    When I say "all things being equal" I mean the same body, gear ratio, track conditions, temperature, altitude, etc. It is just a fact of performance evolution over time that the 70 455 was the top dog in the chain because of the reduction of CR beginning in 71.
     
  5. MR.BUICK

    MR.BUICK Guest

    Ahh, I see. Now I know what you mean. :TU:
     
  6. nailheadina67

    nailheadina67 Official Nailheader

    I love that car!! I first layed eyes on it in Flint 2 years ago. That's the exact car I always wanted (except it doesn't have a/c) that I built mine into. If I'd have known the guy in Ohio had that for sale I would have had to win a bidding war. :laugh:
     
  7. BlackRiv

    BlackRiv The Black Stallion

    yeah that is true but the fact is that the weight and other stuff is not the same, but the motors themselves are obvious in performance
     

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