"Nope, no rust" (One of the biggest lies ever.)

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by mechacode, Jun 11, 2005.

  1. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member

    First off, I didn't believe him. I looked in the usual places and didn't find any rust or at least any that hadn't been repaired already (bondo bondo bondo and even some fiberglass in the trunk). So I got bored today and started yanking trim pieces and pulling up carpet and peeking into the nooks and cranny's and the following pictures show what I found. The "goo" on the rusted parts is a rust remover jelly that I grabbed at the store, it's still "working" as I type this but I hope it does what it's supposed to do.

    Passenger side door, !@#$%.
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    The drivers side door, looked at it after the passenger side and was relieved a little.
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    Found this before I found anything else, I shouldn't have looked further.
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    I looked farther.
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    Looks like I got some more work to do. :|
     
  2. Me and a buddy just flew out to California to look at a high dollar 73 Camaro.

    "Car is mint, no modifications."

    The seller left out the SINGLE subframe connector that had be previously fabbed into the driver's side.

    Yeah, car is mint, with a substantial structural modification.
     
  3. EasyCompany7

    EasyCompany7 Semper Fi

    yah, its not nessicerly that thouse are really bad as far as rust spots go, but for the guy to lie to you and say no rust, thats a bunch of crap. If he is going to say something like that as the seller he better be darn sure hes right. That one spot on the door hinge seems like u could sand it down and rustoleum paint it. My GS has the same rust on the bottom of the doors, i wana hear how that jelly works
     
  4. 70aqua_custom

    70aqua_custom Well-Known Member

    the reality is that the OEMs did not paint some parts of the cars. Unpainted steel will rust in minutes if any moisture is present. There will always be some rust somewhere. The real question is how much rust is there. Is there only a tiny bit of surface rust in an obscure area or are there rust holes? I would never take a strangers word when it comes to rust. Some treat it like gays in the military. They don't ask and don't tell. In other words, they didn't look, therefore it does not exist.
     
  5. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member

    Jake, the jelly stuff (I think it was Around $3 at wal-mart, $4 at autozone) worked surprisingly well. Went right down to bare shiny metal (you gotta wire brush any flaking rust off first and then glob the jelly stuff on really thick). The hardest part of it was finding a paint that matches, luckily it's not in a spot where people normally would look.

    That rust spot in pic #4 actually goes all the way through to under the trim around the windshield. :ball: I'm just worried this will be the death of the car, is this repairable?

    The guy that I got it from did a "home paint job" with a gallon of house paint which comes off if you rub on it ( :error: ) so what I really want to do is strip the car down and get it done right with some automotive paint this time around. He didn't even mask off all of the chrome so there's overspray on almost every piece. :Dou:
     
  6. GranSport72

    GranSport72 Angry Right Foot Disease

    I drove 5 hours to Minnesota in January to look at a '68 LeSabre. They claimed there wasn't any rust either. I love how it mysteriously appeared in spots on the car before we got there to look at it. :puzzled:
     
  7. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member

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    Better view of where the rust hole is.
     
  8. r0ckstarr

    r0ckstarr Well-Known Member

    What is the name of the Jelly you used? And, how do you go about painting it once the jelly is on there? Will it wash off, do you need to deep sand it to get the paint to stick once the jelly has been put on?
     
  9. StreetStrip

    StreetStrip Well-Known Member

    Dont be so gullible guys. All cars have rust. You may not be able to see or find it. But all cars have rust somewhere. To even begin to believe it is naive. No rust in car terms usually means no easily visible rust or falling through floorboards. Rust that was fixed with bondo or glass is not rust anymore [ to a car seller].
    An all-original car with no rust had to have been hermetically sealed at the factory. And even then I bet you can find a spot.

    I stripped a car once down to bare metal. The paint on it was good. I could of just scuffed and painted.
    But I wanted to make sure the base was right. And I cant believe how much rust was under good paint. No visible signs of rust on the car or defects in the paint. But I found several spider patches where moisture got into micro cracks in the paint and rust grew. I would of never known, unless I looked.


    Sorry for my little rant but you guys should know better.
    All cars have rust. Never believe it.
     
  10. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member


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    The stuff in the picture below. You wire brush over the rust to remove any flakes and then goop this stuff on (remember the pink river of goo from ghostbusters 2? same color pink). Instructions say to leave it for 5-10 minutes but for "heavy" applications to leave it on for several hours. Whenever you decide that it's done, you wire brush it again to remove any stuff that might have come off and then rinse it with water and let it dry, then it's ready for paint. I'm loving this stuff, right down to bare metal and it was only $3 at wal-mart!
     

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  11. r0ckstarr

    r0ckstarr Well-Known Member

    Thanks. Im going to go purchase a case of it. :laugh:
     
  12. r0ckstarr

    r0ckstarr Well-Known Member

    I went and picked up 2 bottles of the stuff. One bottle which is the same as you have, and the other bottle is the one that turns rust to black primer. I tried it out about 30mins ago on a couple spots and it seems to be working so far.
    Thanks for letting us know about it. :)
     
  13. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member

    Just so you know, when they say you gotta goop it on thick, they really mean thick.
     
  14. r0ckstarr

    r0ckstarr Well-Known Member

    Yea. The one that says it turns rust into black primer said put a thin coat. When I did that, all I seen was a different shade of rust. I put on a "not so thin" coat and when I checked it this morning, it was looking pretty black in color.
     

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