Need help with Adobe PDF & Photoshop

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Annie Oakley, Jan 2, 2005.

  1. Annie Oakley

    Annie Oakley Well-Known Member

    I am the editor/designer of the quarterly newsletter for my horse organization. I have to layout the whole thing, ads & articles. Of course, no matter how many times I ask everyone to send things to me either in the mail or as only specific file types - they still email crap to me at the last minute in weird formats.

    I use Adobe Pagemaker 6.0 to produce the newsletter. It will only allow me to import certain types of image files: like tif, gif. It won't accept jpegs or pdfs. I convert jpegs to tifs in Adobe Photoshop 5.0.

    This is the second time someone has sent me an Adobe PDF file to use as the image for their ad. All it has in it is a photo. I can't import it into Pagemaker, but I can open it in Photoshop. But, Photoshop will only let me save it as a psd or pdd file, which Pagemaker won't import.

    I'm no expert with any of these programs, but I do bumble through them pretty well. Just can't figure out what to do with this problem?

    Is there someway to convert the PDF file into a tif, gif, or jpeg so I can work with it?

    Otherwise, I am going to print it out and rescan it, which will only further decrease the quality of the photo.

    Thanks!!
     
  2. TuBBeD

    TuBBeD Well-Known Member

    You might have luck with Microsoft Photo Editor. I think the latest is 7.0? I'm pretty sure their are ways of switching the file format of the photos.
     
  3. Roberta

    Roberta Buick Berta

    Help

    Hey Annie, if you try the graphic tool in Adobe Reader you can copy and paste the pic to your Photoshop and save it, you might even be able to paste into Pagemaker??
    Hope that helps.
    BTW Happy New Year and all the best in '05!!
    Roberta :beer
     
  4. Mark Ascher

    Mark Ascher 65GS.com

    I can't remember if Photoshop 5 will let you save a PDF out to a jpg or tif, but Photoshop 6 definately will. Did you try the "open as" or "save as" with the file? That will usually let you change the file format.

    I hate to say this, but as a graphic designer myself, it might make sense to change over to either QuarkXpress or Adobe Indesign.

    Mark
     
  5. Mike Atwood

    Mike Atwood The Green Machine

    I used PhotoShop 7, and it lets you import non-protected PDF documents and then you can manipulate or save as anything you want...... even another PDF if you like.

    If you want, email the PDF to me and I will send it back as what ever format you like (Tif will be very large....maybe too big to email unless compressed).

    matwood@mcleodusa.net

    Mike
     
  6. Annie Oakley

    Annie Oakley Well-Known Member

    Adobe Reader Graphics Tool

    Roberta - I have Adobe Reader open, with the file open, and found the instructions to do what you say (very easy, should have found it myself) - but I can't locate the graphics selection tool anywhere??? There is a text selection tool, and the help references the graphics selection tool, but I can't fin it, or anything that points to it?????????????

    Mark - Photoshop 5.0 'save as' - the only option I get to do that with a pdf file are to save it as a psd or pdd. Guess it's time to upgrade my software. I'm no graphic designer, nor do I plan to be, so the other software you suggest is not going to happen - I do this for free and I had to buy Pagemaker myself and that's about all the 'charity' I can give them!!

    Mike - Thanks! If I don't get it figured out, I'll take you up on that offer! Unfortunately, I'm sure this will happen again, so I really need to find a long-term solution.
     
  7. Annie Oakley

    Annie Oakley Well-Known Member

    Success!!

    OK, figured it out. A bit convoluted, but this worked:

    Adobe Reader - you have to click ctrl-v while clicking on the text selection tool to find the graphics selection tool.

    Select the photo from the original PDF file and copied to the clipboard.

    Pasted it into a new file in Photoshop 5, but it would only let me save that file as a psd or pdd!!!! :mad:

    So, open MS Paint, pasted it into a new file there, and it would let me save it as nearly anything - and saved it as a tif file (that is the format I need for Pagemaker anyway).

    Voila!!

    What's most irritating, is that the photo of the horse is a scan out of a calendar that the horse was featured in. The owner wanted to use that photo but didn't have a print. So someone scanned in the calendar (you can even see the hole at the top of the photo). Not only did they save it as a pdf instead of a tif or gif, which would have retained decent quality, they scanned it at 96 dpi!!! Doesn't look that good and will print even worse.

    I guess I shouldn't complain too much, the owner of the horse is Amish and uses the computer where he works to email, so that in itself is pretty amazing!!

    THANKS ALL!!
     
  8. tlivingd

    tlivingd BIG BLOCK, THE ANTI PRIUS

    Annie, in PS 5 after you paste something into a document,pic, whatever, you need to go to "Layers" and "Flatten Image" it will then get rid of all the layer information and allow you to save the file as nearly anything you want TIFF and JPG included. PS 6 automatically removes the layer info for you.

    -nate
     
  9. Annie Oakley

    Annie Oakley Well-Known Member

    Thanks Nate!! That will definitely come in handy, as I had run into that problem before and was never sure what to do with it.

    I really need to find a class for just Photoshop. I have Photoshop for Dummies, but I guess I need the Idiot version!! :Dou:
     
  10. Truzi

    Truzi Perpetual Student

    Sometimes you can just save as what Photoshop wants, then open that file and save as something else.

    "Save a copy" will sometimes work without any conversion.

    To copy/paste from the image on the screen to a file can degrade image quality, escpecially if the final product is printed.

    Consider requiring people to send a format you can easily use. By requiring I mean If they do not comply, kindly inform them that you will not include their work until they do.

    A woman I work with has to edit journal articles for publication. The requirments are quite explicit, but sometimes she receives a file in a format she cannot convert. She calls us (technical staff) for help, and sometimes we can't get it.

    Basically, she uses Microsoft and Adobe. Once she received a TEX document, with a custom style sheet (or coded reference to one - it wasn't included). Try as we did, we couldn't quite get it right - the attempts took some time, and time is money.

    Talk the people you work with into a hard-line about submissions.
     

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