nailhead swap

Discussion in 'Classic Buicks' started by buickoz, May 29, 2013.

  1. buickoz

    buickoz Member

    i have a 58 coupe with a 364 and dyna flow, im looking at doing somthing with the engine , ive come across a 425 with a dyna flow , can anyone tell me if this is an easy swap ?or do i just reco the 364?,,,,im in australia so parts arent so easy to come across .
     
  2. bhambulldog

    bhambulldog 1955 76-RoadmasterRiviera

    Depends, if the 425/Dynaflow is
    an open drive shaft,
    Or,
    Torque tube.

    Your 0buick has torque tube originally
     
  3. 56buickboy

    56buickboy Well-Known Member

  4. buickoz

    buickoz Member

    ok thanks , will have a look , i guess another op[tion could be to see if the 425 will bolt up to my currnet df thats behind the 364 in the car ...thanks for the info.murray
     
  5. cluxford

    cluxford Well-Known Member

    Or if you want a spare I have a 364 + Dynaflow out of a 61 buick here in Melb.

    I swapped to a 350 SBC and TH350 (yeah I know sacrilege) because my 61 is my daily driver and I do 160 K's round trip each day and Nailhead parts aren't easy to come by if she breaks down, SBC much easier.

    It's an original 50,000 mile motor and box and was taken out only a few months ago and was running at the time.

    if you can get the 425 in, that would be sweet, some nice dress up parts for the 425, none for the 364
     
  6. buickoz

    buickoz Member

    hi chris , i think i may have spoken to you a few months ago , is your dyna flow , a torque tube version ?.....murray....i could be interested . i have another 364 that i know of in melb with no heads that i was going to buy , its allways niced to get a complete engine .....interested ...depends on the dyna i guess
     
  7. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    The 425 engine will have an open driveline Dynaflow. The 425 was not available until 1963. By 1963, Buick had switched to an open driveline. I'm pretty sure the 425 will bolt up to the 1958 transmission. Doc will know for sure. The swap should be a bolt-in if you use the '58 tranny.
     
  8. mosslack

    mosslack Well-Known Member

    Just FYI '60 was the last year for the torque tube design. The '61 has a regular driveshaft, etc. HTH
     
  9. cluxford

    cluxford Well-Known Member

    Murray, yeah actually that rings a bell, you may have spoken to me, no mine doesn't have a torque tube it's an open tailshaft

    Anyway still here if your interested and not going anywhere soon.

    Rgds
    Chris
     
  10. bhambulldog

    bhambulldog 1955 76-RoadmasterRiviera

    I always forget the cut-off on that. .....

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    Including valve covers?
     
  11. mosslack

    mosslack Well-Known Member

    I know it's a long way to ship, but Russ Martin does offer a torque tube eliminator kit to fit '53-'60 Buicks if you decide to go that way. At US $1,095.00 plus shipping, it is a little expensive, but It is another option to consider. You can view more info about it here:

    http://nailheadbuick.com/drive-line-and-differential
     
  12. cluxford

    cluxford Well-Known Member

    Yep the entire complete motor and box. Everything. It was pulled from the car and set aside in the workshop (covered) as a running engine and trans.
     
  13. buickoz

    buickoz Member

    yes thanks i have looked at this ,this might be the way i go in a year or 3 ,i havent had this car that long and i want to have some fun in it first (was just going to do a reco 364 and change it over on a weekend and keep going ,then the 425 was discovered ,but somtimes its just easier to stick with what u have but 60 more cubes gets me thinking ) , i know if i go down this road it could be off the road for months and then i probably couldnt help myself and then want to repaint it ,more money ....but thanks for the info ,greatly appreciated and thats why i joined this community .ive been a mopar guy for the last 26 years , know them backwards ,,,now im starting again ...murray

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    the only problem i would have is i would have a trans that i cant use and i understand you probably dont want to split them , .can i get your number ?i will call u if thats ok ....i lost it last time and your gumtree add ended ...murray
     
  14. cluxford

    cluxford Well-Known Member

    Happy to split em Murray. 0418 342 857


    Do have a look at the 425 though as if it bolts up to your current trans they are an awesome motor and have way way more after market support than the 364s
     
  15. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Just use the 425 without the attached trans. It's a BOLT-IN swap. Motor mounts, all linkages, gauges, etc. will all bolt up as if you were swapping an original 364.

    Tom T.
     
  16. buickoz

    buickoz Member

    thanks tom , thats exactly what i want to hear , i just wanted the extra cubes but not extra headaches , you have pretty well made my mind up for me .thanks murray
     
  17. 421-6speed

    421-6speed Well-Known Member

    As Tom says you would be much further ahead to swap in the 425. Its a direct bolt in with the original 58 trans.
     
  18. Bird

    Bird Member

    Chris, I was going to do the same thing with my previous project (swap engine for 350 and turbo 400) when the old straight 8 wouldn't start. Sold off the project and bought a 55 century with the 322. Had a vague plan concerning using the chevy motor in the 55. Once the car arrived, however, I fired her up and she ran so sweetly I couldn't consider it. Must admit, the cost of a rebuild would be considerable, but she aint dead yet, and anyway, I am a rotary guy, so the thought of rebuilding engines is always in the back of my mind LOL!
    Sure wouldn't mind a spare nailhead.
     
  19. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    Installing a Chevy engine in a Buick is a mortal sin and is known to cause chronic Poison Ivy of the genetalia. :laugh:
     

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