mystery heads

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by jasond455, Feb 9, 2004.

  1. jasond455

    jasond455 Active Member

    Just thought I would throw this out there and see if anyone might have some input. I'm looking at a rebuilt 455 and the casting numbers on the heads are 1237663. I have checked atlantabuick.com and these numbers dont add up. they have been checked three times. I'm sure I have the right numbers. Any comments?
     
  2. Smartin

    Smartin Guest

    I have the closest 455 numbers as:

    1237661 71 455
     
  3. gotbuick

    gotbuick What, me worry?

    While were on the subject...

    1238148

    I'm pretty sure they are 72's. But what is the casting # for Stage 1's???
     
  4. Smartin

    Smartin Guest

    I think that is a casting of 70-early 72, before they started using the double scalloped blocks.

    Stage1 castings should have the same casting numbers as non-stage heads.
     
  5. evil16v

    evil16v Midwest Buick Mafia

    warranty service replacement heads?
     
  6. Rogers Performance

    Rogers Performance 86 GN 4700 Miles/70Stage1

    STAGE 1 70 END IN 786
     
  7. evil16v

    evil16v Midwest Buick Mafia

    The stage 1 and standard valve heads are the same casting and number.
     
  8. Rogers Performance

    Rogers Performance 86 GN 4700 Miles/70Stage1

    OK according to my AERA chlinder head book part #1237661 is off a 455 70-76 withbuick vin p,r,t,u,v,w
    part number 1238148 is also the same as above
    no listing for part number 663
     
  9. Smartin

    Smartin Guest

  10. evil16v

    evil16v Midwest Buick Mafia

    ok here is waht i've copied off the buick performance site:

    400-430-455


    head casting numbers and descriptions


    by George Nenadovich, Ron Rygelski and Gary Bohannon



    1967-9
    Heads have small combustion chambers, 68 cc, for the best compression Buick big block heads. The 67 430 heads have casting numbers 1382983, 1382985 and 1372963. These 67 heads are known as big port heads. Some 1968 heads with casting number 1384720 are big port heads.

    1970

    Heads have good compression, 68 cc. First year to use the large Stage 1 valves. Heads have casting number 1231786.

    1971-4

    Heads have slightly less compression than previous years, 71 cc. Heads have year cast onto exhaust port at #1 or #8 cylinder. 1973-4 heads have casting number 1241860.

    1975-6

    Heads have open chambers and low compression, 78 cc. If earlier model heads are to be used on these blocks special head gaskets are required since water ports are not the same as earlier years. Earlier years are round while later ones are oval.

    Example of water port differences will be shown below in a few weeks.
     
  11. evil16v

    evil16v Midwest Buick Mafia

    none stage heads -- 70
     

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  12. 71GS455

    71GS455 Best Package Wins!

    Jerry,

    This just shows them as a 72, they don't differentiate the Stage 1's:

    http://www.atlantabuick.com/CastingNumbers.htm
     
  13. evil16v

    evil16v Midwest Buick Mafia

    stage heads
     

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  14. evil16v

    evil16v Midwest Buick Mafia

    stage 2 heads
     

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  15. evil16v

    evil16v Midwest Buick Mafia

    73 non stage bowls
     

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  16. Rogers Performance

    Rogers Performance 86 GN 4700 Miles/70Stage1

    YOUR CAMRA TAKES GREAT PICTURES WHOS IS IT HOW MANY PIXELS
     
  17. Smartin

    Smartin Guest

  18. gotbuick

    gotbuick What, me worry?

    After seeing the pictures of both heads, I think the heads I'm looking at are either stage 1's or standard valve heads that have been opened up. The clearance on the valves was about a fingernails thickness.

    I thought the valves should have been a little deeper in the head. Maybe all in the valve grind? :Do No:
     
  19. Rogers Performance

    Rogers Performance 86 GN 4700 Miles/70Stage1

    that site buickperformance is great nice job.
     
  20. evil16v

    evil16v Midwest Buick Mafia

    What he said.

    actually I do have a digital camera.... ricoh Rdc-7
    I take most referance pix w/ 1024 fine for detail but have to reduce them quite a bit to post them.

    Here is one I took(almost in the dark) of my '71 heads with hardened exhaust seats installed -- yet to be cut for the stg 1 valves... have some things to do first...
     

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