Milder camshaft

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Super Bald Menace, Apr 25, 2023.

  1. Super Bald Menace

    Super Bald Menace Frame off oil changes

    I have an 11.0 compression 455 with TA stage 1 SE heads. I got carried away when building the engine and now I'm rethinking the cars purpose. Are the aluminum heads forgiving enough that I can run a smaller cam with smooth idle characteristics? Engine has not been started yet. Do dynamic compression rules still apply with alloy heads?

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  2. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    What cam you have in it now?
     
  3. Super Bald Menace

    Super Bald Menace Frame off oil changes

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  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    With a true SCR of 11.0:1, you are at the DCR limit for pump gas with that cam. If you go smaller, it will only increase. Aluminum heads help with octane tolerance. I am not sure whether or not you would need some race gas mix.

    That's a nice cam. Idle shouldn't be so bad.
     
  5. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Leave it alone,..don't go backwards
     
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  6. avmechanic

    avmechanic Well-Known Member

    That is the cam I had planned for my build. I would just leave it alone. It should run fine and be streetable.
    Greg
     
  7. standup 69

    standup 69 standup69

    Sounds like a great little engine .
     
  8. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    17 deg of overlap. Not smooth but also not radical. Will "hit a lick" as they say but should be ok for street cruising.

    If you want smooth idle and be ok with pump gas, a cam with wider LSA and more advertised duration should work, can also juggle the installed ICL to help
     
  9. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    Just fire it up!!
    Is that cam advanced 4*? Any thoughts on installing it straight up to reduce the DCR a little?
    Better yet...
    I watched the new Top Gun Movie last night.....this quote came to mind. Stop second guessing and go for it!
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Super Bald Menace

    Super Bald Menace Frame off oil changes

    I installed it @106 on JW's recommendation
     
  11. Jeremy Zepnick

    Jeremy Zepnick STEELMAN

    You just need to do a trade swap for iron heads. Hehehhe
     
  12. Electra Sweden

    Electra Sweden Well-Known Member

    On a side-note, that engine looks extremely nice! Where did you find a shape molded hose to the PCV system?
     
  13. David Hemker

    David Hemker Well-Known Member

    I have used this cam in my pure stock engine with iron heads that were not ported and a stock convertor. In my opinion it is streetable with a reasonable idle.
     
  14. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

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  15. Super Bald Menace

    Super Bald Menace Frame off oil changes

    Did you advance it or install at the 108⁰ listed on cam card?
     
  16. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    I would not install that cam at 106 with the current SCR and short advertised intake duration.
     
  17. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Are you sure of the 11.0:1 SCR? This cam puts you right at 8.4 DCR, which is the theoretical limit for pump gas. That's at 108* ICL. Advancing the cam another 2* increases the DCR to ~8.53. Running 11:1 SCR with aluminum heads is OK with a larger cam. Going smaller is asking for trouble.
     
  18. David Hemker

    David Hemker Well-Known Member

    I installed the cam at 108 as designated on the cam card.

    I trust Scott's recommendations. The cams that he designs for me always work well. I once installed a cam 5 degrees retarded as he suggested. It's a pretty small cam 210-230 @ .050. The car ran 12 teens with slicks and an ancient KB 2500 switch pitch convertor.
     
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  19. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Run that cam the way it is installed... you won't have any issues, and idle quality/vacuum will be just fine.

    JW
     
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  20. Super Bald Menace

    Super Bald Menace Frame off oil changes

    Thanks for the input fellas. I have a bad habit of second-guessing myself
     
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