has anyone looked into swapping an LS1 into a skylark chassis?? Please don't give me the chevy engine stuff, they aren't. Just curious as might have to appease the greenies someday, seems like and interesting solution....with a 4l60E would be a decent performer and good mileage too... later Tim
Tim, there was a GM Performance Parts `70 Chevelle at the SEMA show, it sported a LS6 crate version of the all aluminum 5.7L like the current Corvette Z06. There is a short write-up on page 12 of the March Car Craft. They say there is a powertrain control module that makes installation in any `76 or earlier GM vehicle straight-forward. The module "harmonizes" the engine and 4L65E four speed automatic. Tim, this sound like a good project for you :Brow:
Nah, I'm a pretty hardcore resto kind of guy, but if they ever push it, I would most likely go that route for te ragtop anyway (since it is a small block car)....I would just stop driving the Stage 1 I guess. I'll tell ya though, if you've driven a LS1 powered car, its a damn neat engine....i know lots of guys condier it a chevy engine but it really isn't..its a GM engine...so far chevy and pontiac use it. could run 373 gears and still be very happy on the highway.... Pricey though.... later Tim
The LS1 is a "Corporate Engine" which EQUALS Shivvie in the GM world..... ou: No longer is there any brand individuality and I can guarantee I won't buy any of their new crap till that changes, which by the way more than likely never will. That in itself is quite SAD in my opinion, especially knowing that it was Buick that was the "rock" that GM was built on!:af:
I have done some work on a couple LS1's and 5.3, 6.0 truck verisons. First really look at the motor, By all means it is far closer to a Ford engine than a GM and second the LS1 version have some weakness to the cylinder sleves so I wouldn't run nitrous. And last any engine would perform well if the trans and chassis were set up well. I mean Port fuel inject a 455 then put a well preped 4L60E behind it and a Good gear and I bet you will leave all the LS1 cars in the dust.
Well, since I own a BBB and an LS1, I'll throw my 2 cents in as well. I have to say I think it would be intriguing to put an LS1 in an A-body. I don't consider it a "Chevy" motor either, since it was designed and built by GM corporate, and has been used in different brands. I know a guy locally that has an '00 TA who put a 125 Shot of N2O on his car, and was otherwise stock. I was at the dyno the day he made his pulls, and on the bottle put down 440HP and 524TQ at the rear wheels. That was with about 25k on the motor, today with about 40k miles, it still runs strong, but his 7.5" rear end let loose! ou: Anyone that has their doubts about these motors needs to get in an LS1 f-body or c5, I'm sure it will change your mind. It's amazing what technology can do, 320 RWHP and almost 30 MPG on the highway with a 6 speed tranny!! What else could a muscle car enthusiast ask for? For some good technical info on these motors, you can check out the technical forums at www.ls1.com , www.ls1tech.com , and www.ls1info.com all are great web resources!
Sure but you'll spend as much on the FI as the engine costs, and try to pass emmisions. that was my point, if the greenies ever ban the old stuff completly, it is an option. BTW, I have a friend with a 99 TA Ws6, susp mods, nitrous and 4.10's with a six speed...that thing will friggin scare ya at any mph and it don't stop until you hit 150mph plus.....totally nuts, and two years of not so easy driving. no problems. Corporate engines are not chevy engines. Its too bad there is such opposition to stuff like that, a few rodded skylarks running around and in a magazine wouldn't hurt our image at all, might even help, but there is always such an outry about the 'wrong" engine nobody even wants to try... later Tim
In my opinion, the LSx engines are closer to being Buick engines than Chevies!! Think about it...deep skirted blocks, 4 bolts per cylinder, tall and narrow intake ports. Sound familiar!!:Brow: :grin: Seriously though...the LSx engines are VERY well built and designed!! NO engine is 'perfect', but these sure come closer than most! Now...if you could only BORE the blasted things!ou: Or at least, give us easily changeable sleeves!!
I think an LSI in a skylark would be awesome. Ive day dreamed about using a supercharged 3800 engine with a 5 speed in a skylark as well. ________ Bazzuka
I've got one of each. A 462 Buick in a GS with a 700R4 and a C5 Vette with an automatic. The vette is much more civilized and velvet smooth. It runs like a fine watch. The 462 is BRUTE force, loud and obnoxious. I like them both! I'm still an old school guy but admit the new stuff is awful good. Mike D.
I own one of each as well. The LS1 is an awesome engine for sure. I have heard that you can bore the 2000 and newer blocks. I have logged 29.5 MPG on the highway at 75MPH with the AC on! The engines love to rev, and are Very well built. The car is a 2002 Z28 6 Speed. There is more and more stuff available to bolt the LS1 into older cars. Yes, it can be done. Would I do it to my car? Not yet. Still waiting for more cool stuff for the 350 Buick. Like Alum Heads and Roller cams... Anyone Listening????
GN motor How about putting the GN V6 in a A-body? It's Buick and should meet the greenies expectations? I have not seen anything on the board about folks trying the swap? David
A guy here in flint has a GN powertrain in a 70 chevelle SS very nice civilized car:Brow: Well for a chebbie anyways
Re: GN motor did you see the Car Craft (I think) article with the Turbo'd Lark? I think it was a 65 or 64 and it hauled butt! The only thing is that those turbo engines seem to work a lot better with automatic trans. I wanna keep the stick.
Re: Re: ls1 -AAAAAAMEN!!! I too have one of each. I have a 00 Trans Am and a 70 Skylark. My Trans Am out of the box put down 325 horse and 336 torque and did 13.41 at 108 in the 1/4 on the factory rubber. As far as the Buick I did what would consitute blastfimey here. I put a 454 BBC in my Buick. Now I know, a chevy in you buick, but I couldn't get a 455 for the price I put my BBC together for. I took the buick to the Car Craft Summer Nats here in St. Paul last summer. I got a lot of looks. There were a few skylarks at the show. I heard everything from that is sweet to why in the hell would you do that to a buick. I guess I agree with keeping the car all buick but damn, I can through 1000 bucks at the BBC and get a heap of power from it. Thoughts? Signed one of the few...
I'm with you... I had a 2000 WS-6 Convertible and it was an awesome powertrain. 145+ mph, 18/26 mpg, and great handling and braking. I miss it. Frank
