Loud Top End Noise, '62 LeSabre 401.

Discussion in ''Da Nailhead' started by Chad Nicoletti, Sep 14, 2021.

  1. Dan Hach

    Dan Hach Well-Known Member

    It seems like unless you have an adjustable timing gear, there's really only one way to line this up (line up the dots). It would be good to know true TDC to validate the timing marks. I did that on my engine and I was pleasantly surprised how accurate it was.
     
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  2. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    Yes. But, the amount of parts not on spec manufactured these days, having things as close to "zero" will help show if something is "not right", and with an interference engine, I am going to check anyway.

    It's in my nature to do everything this way, and yeah, I have taken a good share of guff for it over my lifetime.

    It's even in my will, that I be buried twice, just to be sure.

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  3. Babeola

    Babeola Well-Known Member

    I think Chad will be OK just replacing the timing gears and chain as long as he had it lined up when he took it apart. He can always back off the rockers and move the crank and cam into alignment if not. It is just not a good idea to move the crank and cam around independent of one another with the rockers on and torqued down. Nobody likes bent valves. It is going to run the same as it did before without the noise. That is probably good enough. No need for a piston stop, degree wheel and dial micrometer in this case.

    Cheryl :)
     
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  4. Chad Nicoletti

    Chad Nicoletti Well-Known Member

    Thanks Cheryl!!
     
  5. Chad Nicoletti

    Chad Nicoletti Well-Known Member

    Alright All-

    Sorry for not having an update recently. I replaced the 2 rockers and the push rods that were bad, as well as the timing chain and gearset. I got her all back together last Sat and it still made the noise.

    I removed valley cover and found 2 severely concave bottoms of lifters and the corresponding cam lobes non existent. So...... en route to my house are new lifters, cam, push rods, and gasket set. I removed the lifters, pushrods and cam today. Pictures below.

    Will update when I get all of these parts installed.

    Thanks!

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  6. Dan Hach

    Dan Hach Well-Known Member

    Are you going to pull the oil pan and clean it out?
     
  7. Chad Nicoletti

    Chad Nicoletti Well-Known Member

  8. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    Jeeeeeezus. That sucks
     
  9. Chad Nicoletti

    Chad Nicoletti Well-Known Member

  10. Babeola

    Babeola Well-Known Member

    Bummer. Glad you didn’t give up though. Just went ahead to make it right: Nice!

    Cheryl :)
     
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  11. Chad Nicoletti

    Chad Nicoletti Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys,

    Giving up isn't in my vocabulary. Like I said before, I knew what I could be getting into with this ol girl.

    Should be good for a while!
     
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  12. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    Regardless of getting rid of the noise it sure will run better :D
     
  13. Chad Nicoletti

    Chad Nicoletti Well-Known Member

    Absolutely!

    Thanks again John!
     
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  14. Chad Nicoletti

    Chad Nicoletti Well-Known Member

    Well......
    Got everything put back together, and we're back at 0. Making same exact noise.

    I've put a lot of time and some fair money into her in the last few weeks, and this is truly frustrating. If any of you know of a nailhead guy near Cleveland, OH, please pm me.

    Thank you!
     
  15. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    Chad give me a call tomorrow after 6pm. We'll walk through things.
    Relax and get some rest;)
     
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  16. Chad Nicoletti

    Chad Nicoletti Well-Known Member

    Roger that.

    Thanks John
     
  17. Chad Nicoletti

    Chad Nicoletti Well-Known Member

    All,

    Huge thanks to @JESUPERCAT , as well as @Thumper (aka greatscat) . Thunderhead helped me run a compression check and we have 120psi on all 8 cylinders. Thunderhead advised that he couldn't say definitively what the noise was from, and advised pulling the motor.

    We pulled motor yesterday and what do you know, #7 piston skirt is completely blown up. Tons of aluminum chunks in oil pan.

    I've already read this thread; https://www.v8buick.com/index.php?threads/blown-piston-what-do-i-do-now.204504/. Next step is to have @Thumper (aka greatscat) over for looksee at the bottom end and see what the damage is.

    Stay tuned!
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    Last edited: Oct 18, 2021
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  18. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    Damn. Sorry to see that! We hoping for a simple solution.
     
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  19. Dan Hach

    Dan Hach Well-Known Member

    I guess we know what you're doing this Winter. Sorry to hear about that. Isn't it amazing that these things still run with that kind of carnage?
     
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  20. Babeola

    Babeola Well-Known Member

    Let’s just hope the cylinder is intact.
     

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