lookin' : 350 block info

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by DEADMANSCURVE, Apr 2, 2022.

  1. DEADMANSCURVE

    DEADMANSCURVE my first word : truck

    pulled from mid 70's big boat , lesabre i think . it was heading for the derby , dave uses SBM motors .
    i think '75 ? i just want to confirm as much as possible before going next few steps . not that it should be hugely different from the '69 block i did , in car now . i'm using matching block , crank , rods . other parts i've gathered and saved last few years .
    numbers -
    left rear of block where it angles out sez :
    350-1
    behind intake , above bellhousing are :
    GM X
    5
    124 748
    and there's a "clock" cast in also , thats all i can see .
    i checked the pad areas below the corner cylinders but did not see any markings after cleaning them off ?
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    crank is set - mag'd , turned 10/10 , casting crap smoothed down
    rods have been checked and mag'd . i'm working on the beams now - give 'em a quick smooth n polish
    working on block now , cleaning , smoothing lifter drain area , removing plugs , cam bearings etc .
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    thanks for any info
     
  2. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Just keep in mind that the 75 heads won’t fit on the 69 block because of the extra coolant passages. That’s a 72-80 block. The head casting number is under the valve covers.
     
  3. DEADMANSCURVE

    DEADMANSCURVE my first word : truck

    '75 ( or whatever ) block . the '69 motor is in the '65 now . this is a different motor .
    older heads , 70 i think , i'll list those head #'s later . not a bad idea probably to dbl check .
    especially since i've got a set of TA 1.6 roller rockers to install . pushrod oiling required .
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    main bearings and cam bearings out just now , not beat up looking , alot of copper showing though . rear cam oil galley NPT plugs are being a pain .
     
  4. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Ok, yes 70 heads on a 75 block are fine
     
  5. DEADMANSCURVE

    DEADMANSCURVE my first word : truck

    Head numbers :
    Both numbered #B1233472
    One head stamped with 1 , 70 , F30
    Other head stamped with 4 , 70 , F30
     
  6. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    68-72 heads
     
  7. DEADMANSCURVE

    DEADMANSCURVE my first word : truck

    opinions :
    #1 - oem cap screw rods , mag'd , polished beams a little , have ARP bolts for 'em . need prepping , ARP head seats need to be "leveled" and small end sized for floating pins . ( AMP diamond pistons )
    or #2 - sell the oem rods and ARP bolts and order TA $600 rods ? less prep involved , looking like $200 dif i think ?
    i guess my question is , how much better are the TA rods compared to the oem cap screw style rods . budget ( and common sense ) will limit me to these two choices .
    mmmmmmm - aluminum rods . uh - no . face slap emoji !
     
  8. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Hi, if you aren’t using a power adder then the stock rods with ARP are fine. If you think you may add boost or nitrous then use the better rods. I wouldn’t use alum rods on a 350 as there isn’t enough clearance between the camshaft and the big end of the rod shoulders, I looked into this heavily.
     
  9. DEADMANSCURVE

    DEADMANSCURVE my first word : truck

    yeah , TA advised me to be careful with clearance on the big end .
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    edit - ran into dave today , said car was a '76 . so block crank n rods should be '76 probably . no real dif as far as parts or setup but good to know .
    checked with a couple machine shop guys locally that i've worked with before . both seem to do careful work , busy , pricing was about same either way .
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2022
  10. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    OEM cap screw rods are safe to 6000 rpm, but like Sean mentioned if your going to wing it past 6 grand use forged rods.
    Excessive RPM takes out rods.
     
  11. DEADMANSCURVE

    DEADMANSCURVE my first word : truck

    the oem rods are gonne be : beams polished , ARP bolts , lightweight pistons , balanced . probably ok .
    still thinkin' though - like the "insurance" .
    appreciate all the info - too much junk in the brain .
     
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  12. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Without a power adder the factory rods with arp are plenty. Just compare the cost vs forged, it’s not much different after ARP and re sizing
     
  13. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    I didn't know anyone that spun the motor past 6 grand and it went "poof" Only the SP3 is going to let the engine go past 6 grand so use the TA S/P and you will be ok. you want to spin it to 7 grand yeah you probably need the light pistons and the better rods. That is what I would do if I knew I was going to 7 grand. I have spun to 6200 a bunch and hit rev limiter on nitrous so I would say we good.

    I wouldn't worry about it too much the engine is pretty damn tough.
     

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