Keys are good

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Storm1, Mar 1, 2024.

  1. Storm1

    Storm1 Silver Level contributor

  2. 73 Stage-1

    73 Stage-1 Dave

    Key ignitions used to be hot wired. It's always a game of catch up in both directions.
     
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  3. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    Too bad the article contains 0 (zero) info about the actual exploit.

    If it affects Camaros one would suspect it affects a lot of other GM cars too...
     
  4. FJM568

    FJM568 Well-Known Member

    I would rather the media NOT tell the whole world HOW to steal your car.
     
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  5. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    Yep; reminds me of the SFB newspaper in Westchester County that published the name and address of every gunowner in the county.
     
  6. 73 Stage-1

    73 Stage-1 Dave

    Don't worry - it's on the internet. Lots of ways of going about it if you can get yourself a key code scanner.
    Hyundai has the same problem... as do other manufacturers.

    https://www.kiplinger.com/personal-finance/hyundai-and-kia-car-thefts-spike

    Kiplinger - January 09, 2024:
    Hyundai and Kia Car Thefts Rise 1000% Since 2020

    LA Times - February 29, 2024:
    As Chevy Camaro thefts skyrocket more than 1000% in L.A., police unlock a secret of car thieves

    1000% seems like a popular number...
     
  7. This is the same issue like in the original Gone in 60 seconds, where the thief unplugs the old ignition harness from the back of the ignition cylinder and connects it wholesale to a brand new cylinder. Once someone has physical access to the inside of the car, and really the canbus, game over. Dodge has a big problem with other (all my other cars are mopars), and even Toyota where folks can pop a headlight and reprogram the car: https://www.reddit.com/r/ToyotaHigh...ota_vehicles_are_easily_stolen_by_a_new_hack/

    Just like auto manufacturers did with moving the key to the steering column and hardening it, automakers will have to make it hardened to get new keys. Dodge is doing this with their high horsepower cars for free- the catch is, if you ever need another key, it is no longer a 3 minute job, now you need to replace the $400 module that controls the remote locking. Of course if these cars were super duper popular, criminals would just be carrying around the hacktools and the $400 module to steal time.
     
  8. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    I sleep with a SCAR-17 and my bedroom door open...

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  9. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    I was amazed (and a little worried) by the speed with which a locksmith (1) forced open our Dodge Durango with an air bladder, (2) plugged into the OBD port and turned off the alarm and (3) accessed and duplicated the codes to start it and programmed a new fob. About 20 minutes total.
    Of course you can be robbed the old fashioned way, too…

    .https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/at...-keys-unknown-man/T452KGHV2NAZFGWT3MQN6SI36Q/

    Patrick
     
  10. Chuck Bridges

    Chuck Bridges Well-Known Member

    With our old cars, Uncle Tony did a video showing his (I think) '64 Swinger (or Dart, I'm not a Mopar guy). Without using his key, he opened and started the car in less than a minute. He said, in GM cars it is a little slower, but not much. Since my wife and I watched that video, my car has had a steering wheel club. It's a bit of a pain to remember to put up and take down, but the alternative is much worse, in my opinion.
     
  11. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Technology is awesome:rolleyes:
     
  12. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    Locks are to keep honest people honest. They won't stop a criminal.
     
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  13. jmos4

    jmos4 Well-Known Member

  14. PGSS

    PGSS Gold Level Contributor

    Not to bum you out Chuck but its easy to just cut the steering wheel. Happened to my friends GN back in the day before he added a alarm.
    It does help though as every little bit does..
     
  15. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I use a Faraday bag for my new Honda Accord. Anytime I am not using the car, I tuck the key inside the bag. The car is garaged as well. All you can do is put as many roadblocks in front of potential thieves as you can.

    Faraday2.jpg FaradayPouch.jpg
     
  16. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    Best defense is a standard shift - most kids don't know what a clutch is!
    Also, I thought this was funny: "A new Camaro can cost tens of thousands of dollars."
     
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  17. Chuck Bridges

    Chuck Bridges Well-Known Member

    The club is more of peace of mind for me. I know it will only slow down a thief a little, but I feel better. The Wildcat is parked in our parking lot, out of sight in a spot most people avoid as you have to back in behind other vehicles by a fence.
     
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  18. bigtorque2

    bigtorque2 Well-Known Member

    have a couple of pitbulls live in the car,it wasn't nioce but they used to train junkyard dogs to attack anyone they didn't know as soon as it got dark
     
  19. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

  20. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    Back when I was a kid, I was in the Jordan Marsh department store in Boston. When I walked out I noticed a blue and white deuce-and-a-quarter convertible sitting in front of the store. It's top was down and the keys were in the ignition. There was one of the biggest German Shepherds that I have ever seen sitting in the back seat. I thought that the Buick was probably one of the least likely to be stolen cars in the state. I watched for a few minutes because I wanted to see the car's owner. The dog started to wag from head to tail as the owner walked up to the car; he was a black man about 6ft 6 inches tall.
     

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