Installing motor with stage 2 headers on Sunday

Installing the motor on Sunday, any words of wisdom on installing the 2 inch stage 2 headers?

can motor be installed, pass headers up from underneath. Car has A/C FYI

Thanks

 

Following!

 

I like to set the headers in the engine bay and tie them to each side and set the motor down in between them would be best.

 

Set the headers in the frame and then lower the engine in. The stage two headers are a different animal then the standard 455 heads, they are much harder to install with the angle and placement of the flanges over the deck. You'll definitely want to cut the machine perches off the block too.

 

Your right I forgot about those machine perches no good for nothing but being in the way.

 

Agree I've said this many times..I can install 2 sets of stage 1 headers in the time it takes to do stage 2s

 

As the engine gets about 6in from the cradle pull the headers up over the deck then set it down

 

Yes cut those dam chunks of useless knows off! I lay them in the engine bay and then before your all the way in lift them up and put 2 bolts in or all if you feel good. I think the stage 2 headers are way easier to install than stage1. Also I bungie cord the back of header collector to the crossmember.

 

Can someone point out these machine perches to me please.

 

the triangle shaped chunks of metal on the block just below the deck, Cut em off with a disc..can be done with the engine together, be careful.

e

 

Cutting them off is the first thing I do when the engine is torn down.
Chris

 

A metal cutting blade on a sawzall works to.

 

They are what makes headers a pain in the dick most often and are what requires the car to be 4ft of the ground

 

Easy.. set the headers in place, hold them with bungies, and right before it goes down on the mounts, get the headers up over the edge of the heads, and guide them in place while the engine goes in. Two sets of hands are best to have, so get a buddy over. This is for Stage 2 headers.. For Stage 1's, they just have to be closely positioned while the engine goes in.

When I have had to install a motor by myself, I set the LH header in, and guide that in place, and get the motor down and the LH motor mount thru bolt installed, and then you can lift the motor up again with the engine crane, it will tilt up on the LH mount as a pivot, and the RH Stage 2 header will go right in from the bottom. Stage 1 headers fit in with the engine in place on the passenger side, just leave the starter out.

If installing headers on a engine that is already in place and hooked up, simply pull the motor mount thru bolt and put a block of wood across the oil pan sump, an use a floor jack to tilt it up, one side at at time..headers will go right in.

I have had to cut the machine pads off a block or two at a customer's request, and it's a huge pain the rear that is simply not required. I can't really see how it makes anything easier, just don't get locked into thinking that you have to fit the header in there, with everything bolted up. Tilt the motor up, on one side, and they slip right in, with the car on a set of normal 6 ton jack stands.

And we use the machining pads on the block around here, for our transport stands. Also use them when setting a block on the table for a mockup assembly. They are not useless.

JW

P.S. Shorty headers can be installed mounted onto the engine, you might have to unbolt the steering box off the frame to get room around the shaft for install.. Which is a good thing, because installing shorty headers is much more difficult than long tubes, so it's easier to install them on the engine stand, or with it hanging in the air on your cherry picker.

 

Yup, I do the motor mount thing like Jim except I use a small bottle jack up top to push the motor over and put the headers in one side at a time.

 

Ok, those machine pads on the block were cut back, steering shaft is out of the car. Bungy cord is a great idea. Update tomorrow afternoon. Thanks everyone

 

Tranni is in car

 

The tilting deal works with tranny in...just undo trans mount. You can also lift motor with hoist one side at a time with opposite motor mount bolt in. Works for me.....

 

I think the engine installation job would go a lot easier without the transmission already installed - especially with headers. Not hard to bolt the transmission into place after the engine is in.

Nando.

 

I usually put engine in, tilt engine, put headers in but not bolted, then trans, then bolt up headers. If headers are in and bolted it can be kinda tight putting trans in.