Hood insulator: which retainers ?

Discussion in 'A boatload of fun' started by jlv58, Oct 15, 2004.

  1. jlv58

    jlv58 Well-Known Member

    I recently ordered on eBay a hood insulator (quite nice) that came with a pack of retainers. The diameter of these retainers is obviously less than half of the holes I have in the hood :confused: :af: (One told me my hood is one of a Lesabre because of the port holes).
    I am away from my car, but I would say the holes in the hood are somethning between 5/8' and 3/4'. what type of retainers would you recommend ? :Do No:

    Thanks.
     
  2. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member


    The insulation fits inside the triangle shapes and does not require retainers..
     

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  3. jlv58

    jlv58 Well-Known Member

    Damned !! Why haven't I :spank: think about that before... :Dou:

    You saved my life.

    Just wonder why did the insulator supplier put fasteners in the pack (of course with a couple of extra $$ :Brow: :Brow: )....
     
  4. jamyers

    jamyers 2 gallons of fun

    Where'd you get the insulation from? I just need the one piece above the a/c compressor - mine got oil-soaked and fell out when the compressor seal went south. :rant:

    I saw some for everything but a big Buick... :Do No:
     
  5. jlv58

    jlv58 Well-Known Member

    James, I start to think I have been screwed up...here is the insulator I got.
    26$ plus 28$ for shipment to France...
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7921287193&category=42612

    By Adams post, I thought the rectancle could be slided behind the reinforcement sheet metal of the hood, but now you mean to say there are serveral triangles ?
    At least the material sounds nice and I can taylor it myself.

    This is the problem of having a car parked 200 miles away from your home...

    Next time, I'll ask the forum first.
     
  6. jamyers

    jamyers 2 gallons of fun

    That may work, if it's big enough to cut into the sections needed.

    I didn't see any dimensions on the ebay site, so I'd email and confirm the size before paying (if you haven't already).

    Surely, it'll be big enough, but if it won't work, I'd cancel the transaction due to misrepresentation, refer them to this thread and Adam's photo for proof that it's not the "right" part.

    Hope this helps!

    btw, Adam, nice photo! Looks like you're being interviewed on TV or something.
     
  7. jlv58

    jlv58 Well-Known Member

    Thanks, James.
    I'll follow your advise and see how they react. Of course I paid already.
    Have you ever seen an eBay seller sending the part without getting the money (even more when sent to a French :laugh: )

    By the way, next time you open your hood, just le me know how far (more or less) the insulator goes under the reiforcements so that I can cut the proper triangles. :beer
     
  8. jlv58

    jlv58 Well-Known Member

    And here is the seller's answer:

    "Hi Jean-Luc,

    We are sorry to hear that you were disappointed. We checked with our supplier and they caded this pattern off an original molded hood insulation from a LeSabre. We have never heard of the insulation being between the bracing on your vehicle. That practice was largely discontinued in the mid 60's. Our best guess is that your friends hood insulation is not original. This hood insulation is designed to be placed on your hood with an adhesive of some sort (3M recommended) which can often be picked up at a hardware store. Does this help you at all?
    "

    and here was my claim (very soft as you can observe):

    "Dear Sir, I opened the package last week (only), and it does not seem to fit a Lesabre -Centurion 1971 as you indicated. A friend of mine sent pictures af his hood inside that shows the insulator is made of several triangles that one slides behind the inside reinforcement of the hood. No need to use retainers. I recognise I should have taken info before but my hood came without insulator when I got the car and I could not compare with your picture, and I only trusted your description. Now I will try to see if I can taylor cut the material and adapt to my hood, but I wanted to tell you about my frustration. Regards,"



    1) I am are sure you guys know better than him.
    2) The seller has the audacity tu suggest the use of some adhesive after he sold to me the wrong clips !!

    I won't insist anymore since thes disputes accross the ocean are a waste of time. I am confident I can play the taylor and make it fit....just won't take other parts from this seller.
     
  9. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    If you look into the metal lip that holds the insulation in the hood, then you can get a pretty good idea how far you should cut it. I think it's about an inch all the way around. If it sags after you fit it in there, then that is when you should use adhesive.

    The vendor has no idea what he's talking about. He is referring to a piece that would fit OVER the shole underside of the hood, which is NOT correct at all for any of the 71 models...nor 72...or 73. Possibly more. Sounds like he sold you insulation for an 85 LeSabre or something...

    That picture was taken at Milan dragway in Flint last year. It was supposed to be for some historic video which I never saw.
     
  10. Jim68Skylark

    Jim68Skylark Well-Known Member

  11. VKohanski

    VKohanski Well-Known Member

    Wow, Jim. Thanks for posting the link. Underhood is my next project. The original stuff is still in there, but it's so disintegrated that it's probably going to crumble when I pull it out. I'm just finishing my trunk extreme makeover project. It looks like a brand new car in there. I'll post a pic when done. After the underhood, I'll get to the doors. I've been driving it a bit more, so I want to POR-15 the inside lower doors and then paint the armrests. Does anybody have a handy-dandy link to a good maker of that vinyl paint with a good Buick-matching white?
     
  12. jlv58

    jlv58 Well-Known Member

    Finally got it cut. Almost enough material to make two hoods...but I kept on scratching myself 2 days after I had the glass wool cut....
     
  13. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    Cool! Let's see some pictures:beer What did you use to cut the material?
     
  14. jlv58

    jlv58 Well-Known Member

    Basic scissors.....and a stick of chalk to draw the lines.
    Just use gloves and a long sleeves shirt, in case you are allergic to glass wool or fiber like me...
     
  15. Phil Racicot

    Phil Racicot Well-Known Member

    My 74 LeSabre and my 75 Electra both have a single piece hood insilation so it might be correct for 74's and newer cars. Buicks were late to introduce single piece hood insulation. Some cars already had them in the sixties.
     
  16. Yardley

    Yardley Club Jackass

    Yes, I believe my '66 LeMans had one piece.
     
  17. palbuick

    palbuick Well-Known Member

    Hood Insulation

    I purchased this type of material some time ago, to do the hood of my 66 Wildcat. I can in one large piece and I had to cut each piece out. You could use a heavy paper to make a template, trace onto the insulation. Be sure to make it at least 1 1/2 inches larger than the opening, this will tuck under the hood support lip.

    Jm Schilf
    palbuick
     

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