Has this odometer rolled over?

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by GranSportSedan, Aug 17, 2019.

  1. I read before that some guys can tell if an odometer has rolled over and started again after a hundred thousand miles. Curious if anybody can tell me if this one looks like it has rolled over. 20190817_115416.jpg
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I have never heard that. What I have heard is that sometimes when someone messes with them, the numbers are out of line with one another. They look pretty straight to me.
     
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  3. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    That was one of my jobs long ago. I ALWAYS got the numbers straight. MANY times I had to roll it forward as no one believed the low miles. They almost always were out of line when someone else did/does it. It takes patience & time otherwise you end up with numbers out of line.
    Those numbers look real in my eyes.
     
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  4. Yeah for some reason I was thinking there was A slight misalignment that happened when they rolled over past a hundred thousand. Probably just my old age imagining things
     
  5. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

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    Usually you can tell be looking at the gas and brake pedals... and x2 on numbers misalignmnet = somebody’s messed with it.

    Here is one that just about ready to roll itself over again, in my 72 convertible.
     
  6. My3Buicks

    My3Buicks Buick Guru

    The gas and brake pedal thing is a bunch of BS, it’s just as easy to replace them if you’re trying to sell a car, I’ve also seen incredibly low mileage cars that are owned by old people that ride their foot on the break and those petals not like they have got 300,000 miles on it, so while that might be something to initially glance at it, it really is worthless in the long run. The odometer lining up is a much more accurate but again not something you want to bet your house on
     
  7. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn’t bet the house either, as there are so many shady people out there. Everything is circumstantial evidence. However, a worn-out gas and “break” “petal” are the least likely liars. It takes a lot to wear them out. 200k original brake pedal one is pictured. I can’t recall if I’ve changed the gas pedal or not, but am leaning towards “no”.
     
  8. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Not hard to tell when someone has put on a new pedal pad...

    Vintage ones have a particular look, that you can identify if you have seen a few.. and in that instance, lack wear can be one of many indicators of if that 75K is the first or second time around on the OD, but of course not the only one.

    I have a 70 stage 1 in the shop right now, and that question came up... showed 75XXX on the clock, and I took a quick peek at the brake pedal pad, and said, yup, that is the first time around.

    The owner, who has had it for 38 years, confirmed this.

    JW
     
  9. BUICKRAT

    BUICKRAT Got any treats?

    Holy 2 foot driver, batman.
     
  10. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    Look at all the suspension parts for wear & tear in attempting to determine mileage. My GS has rolled over 99999 to now 150000 and the numbers are straight. I actually have documentation as to mileage.
     
  11. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

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  12. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    Taking a guess your in automotive repair. I know a few mechanic that learned that you need 2 feet to keep some junk running and it turned into a habit.
     
  13. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    That is 100% correct. Still 2-foot everything. Old habits die hard.
     
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  14. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    The assumption you could stick a coat hanger up behind the odometer is BS.
    There’s a small metal clip that retains the roller, that HAS to be removed to get the roller (odometer) out.
    THEN Theres a VERY brittle piece of plastic that holds and aligns the the metal spacer between each number that has to be CAREFULLY worked upwards and off the alignment tabs.
    THEN hold the roller in your hand while holding 1 tab and turning 1 digit at a time.
    If you screw that up and or break that plastic piece that properly aligns the metal tabs on the spacers, the spacer will roll and show a white space between the numbers instead of black
     
  15. gsfred

    gsfred Founders Club Member

    Worked in a dealership back in the 60's. There was a guy that worked there that would take a used car home at night, and it would come back with less miles on it in the morning. Not sure how he did it.
     
  16. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...our used car dept had a "box" that hooked to speedo cable and slowly ran speedo backward. If they needed lots of miles quickly, pulled speedo.

    Never got along with our used car dept; clocking, re-grooving tires, someone in WV who rebuilt totals, etc. We never spoke again after I rejected one on a state inspection. Beautiful red '64 Wildcat. When I raised it, found strut rod to lower control arm had been cut and black iron gas pipe welded in to make ft end align.:eek: Had been hit hard on frame horn. Got it passed at a nearby service station. My safety concerns fell on deaf ears. One of several reasons I went to college and changed careers...
     
  17. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    Even today electronic odometers are “tuned” backwards all the time. The felon doesn’t even have to get his hands dirty - plug in the scanner and push a few buttons. I despise people who do this. It is the same as stealing. And seemingly everyone I know that does this brags about it too.
     
  18. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    Most title states require that the seller certify that the indicated mileage on the odometer is correct or that the odometer has reached it's recording limits. Most analog odometers read to 99,999 miules then start over. If the seller lies about this, the purchaser would have a strong case for fraud, and perhaps even perjury.
    As an aside, in the OP odometer shows 84,000 miles; A car with 184,000 miles likely will look very different then one with 100,000 miles less.
     
  19. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    On the newer stuff, people that put a lot of miles on roll the mileage back several times over the course of owning the vehicle. The “smart” ones keep good logs so as not to get tripped-up during state inspections and any warranty/recall work at a dealer. Can’t stand this.

    If a 60’s car showed “80,000 original miles”, it’s pretty much used up if the maintenance hasn’t been kept up with. Rings, bearings, etc don’t have the technology nor the superior oils available today, back then. If a newer vehicle showed that, and has had reasonable care, 80k is just getting started in many cases.
     
  20. I pulled the fuel pump and peeking out at me is a factory nylon timing gear which tells me the mileage is probably correct at 84000.

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