Gsx Id

Discussion in 'The "Paper Trail"' started by Bblock, Aug 24, 2005.

  1. Bblock

    Bblock Member

    Can I tell the GSX I'm looking at is for real by the VIN# or some code on cowl tag?
     
  2. GSXER

    GSXER Well-Known Member

    Vin # its self wont tell you but last 6 of vin should be between 219000 to 337000. You want to see a QQ paint code or a 10/10 for white but white was standard on other skylark models . You will see 188 trim code . Feb O2D to June O6B build dates and and fisher body 180000 to 285000. This is for 70's 71-2 were special order cars and harder to verify.
     
  3. skylarkroost

    skylarkroost skylarkroost

    Stuff that might help

    This might help. It's directly from the GSX registry page.
    Items to look for to help determine if it is a real 1970 GSX or not.

    1. Paperwork is always the first option. Ask the owner for original bill of sale, Protect-o-plate, body production sheet (usually found on the gas tank), Broadcast sheet (usually found in the drivers side pillar tucked up under the dash pad), or any other identifying paperwork.
    2. The stripes down the side of the car had a small miss match directly above the rear wheel well.
    3. The stripes toe in at the front edge of the hood.
    4. There is one weep hole in the rear spoiler.
    5. There are holes cut into the trunk lid to place the bolts for the rear spoiler.
    6. There are holes drilled in the front part of the frame to mount the front spoiler.
    7. There is and X stamped into the support plate of the Sports mirrors.
    8. The body plate on the Cowl should have exterior paint as either Q-Q for Saturn Yellow or 10-10 for Apollo White. The Saturn Yellow color is unique to this car the Apollo White is not.
    9. There should be a 3 inch hole for the hood tach or have a hood tach.
    10. The dash pad emblem says GSX.
    12. There is a quarter panel decal on each side of the car.
    13. The trunk tension bar was slightly bigger then the standard car (needs to be checked with a micrometer).
    14. The steering wheel is padded.


    If all this is correct and the VIN's and paint codes are right you are one lucky guy :beer
     
  4. 704spd

    704spd Well-Known Member

    If there is a build sheet- you can also verify it's a GSX. Without a Build Sheet or other original paperwork, Wayne Roberts is the only way to go. Pretty much everything else can be faked (especially with a 10 10 car). It takes Wayne some time to research though. Do a search on Wayne on this site and I'm sure you'll find his contact number.
    Good luck.
     
  5. GSX-PKV

    GSX-PKV registered user

    If you are spending the money for a real GSX and the owner has no paperwork, why not get the Wayne Roberts documentation first before buying the car.

    You'd most likely do that anyway after you bought the car! Paul
     
  6. 704spd

    704spd Well-Known Member


    I agree Paul. Time is the only concern. With a sizeable deposit, perhaps the owner will wait. This is definitely the safest way for him to go.
     
  7. Bblock

    Bblock Member

    The car's VIN is between 219 000 and 337 000, I will contact GM of Canada and see if they can provide paperwork on the car. Let you guys knows, thanks for your informative replies.
     
  8. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    If imported into Canada, GM will definitely have documentation. Look for the Y41 UPC code.
     
  9. Bblock

    Bblock Member

    GM doc

    Just got the GM documentation, it is a real GSX with L75 Stge 1 option to boot, auto white car ,although current owner painted it saturn yellow, with speed warning ind.Wow! just don't know if it got match # motor/tranny.
     
  10. 704spd

    704spd Well-Known Member

    Gotta love the GM of Canada response time! If only they all were this quick and easy to document.

    Best of luck and please post some pics when you get a chance.

    Eric
     
  11. Bblock

    Bblock Member

    I have not bought the car yet nor am I sure if I will, it will depend on it having original drivetrain or not.
    The car has following options: A51 buckets
    B22 door trim pad emblem
    C87 Lighting interior quarter
    D15 Deluxe armrest
    D55 console
    F41 suspension
    JL2 frontdisc brake single piston
    L75 stge 1 engine
    M40 trans
    N98 wheels
    UF1 map lamp
    UG5 Rallye clock
    U15 speed warning
    U25 Luggage compt lamp
    U30 Gauge auxiliary intrument
    U63 AM radio
    U80 auxiliary rear speaker
    WB7 rallye inst cluster
    WD2 extra cost trim
    WE1 buick GSX pakage
    W17 custom trim group
    W22 trim cust
    Y17 foudation compartmemt shelf
    Y41 GSX ornamentation
    that's it.
     
  12. GSXER

    GSXER Well-Known Member

    If you pass on it please put me in front of the line as a potential buyer ...thanks! finders fee paid :Brow:
     
  13. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    Please consider registering this car with both myself (stage1 registry) and Mark macoubrie, who maintains the GSX registry ( www.buickgsx.net ).

    If you could, please scan and email the import sheet - marco@stage1registry.com

    Thanks!
     
  14. Bblock

    Bblock Member

    Registry

    Hi Marco,
    As I do not own the car yet (not sure if I'll buy either)isn't it pointless to register it?
    According to option list Iput above, is it a rare option combo GSX or just like all other GSX's, it's a white car, what's the brakedown yellow vs white and also stge 1 vs non stge 1 GSX's?
     
  15. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the reply.

    I don't believe it's pointless, as the car hasn't been scrapped. It should be registered as it 'still survives'

    Check out Marks GSX website - www.buickgsx.net for all the production information we currently know about.

    Thanks again!
     
  16. 704spd

    704spd Well-Known Member

    Sounds just like my dad's car. I think the # is around 187 for all White X's (Much rarer than yellow). A Stage 1 10 10 car is theoretically the most desirable combo.

    If the price is reasonable, I would grab it (matching drivetrain or not).

    Regards,

    Eric
     
  17. Rich Johns

    Rich Johns Platinum Level Contributor

    Bblock
    I live near London and can assist you to determine what is correct or incorrect about car.I have extensive knowledge concerning Buick and Pontiacs.
    Call me at 519 264 9595
    Rich
    I sent you a PM as well
     
  18. gsxnut

    gsxnut Well-Known Member

    Please register the car. The numbers are 187 of 678 where white which means about 1/4 of the GSX's where white. 400 of the GSX's had Stage-1 engines. Please register this car if you have the information on it. Please send me a copy of the information from GM Canada. I will split the cost you needed to pay.

    Mark
     
  19. Bblock

    Bblock Member

    Registry

    I can fax you the GM docs if you have a fax #

    Louis
     
  20. gsxnut

    gsxnut Well-Known Member

    816-822-3519.

    Mark Macoubrie
     

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