Here's the documents I recieved. I was very happy with there services.:beers2: I do have a question regarding how accurate they are? Everything listed is there, but the car has power steering, and appears to be completely original. I would assume it should read CE for C-1 & C-6 if it did in fact come original, or is it possible it just wasn't listed by the manufacture in there report???
Not sure. I was also very satisfied, but on one of my stage cars, the trim code was 189 and I know for a fact that it came from the factory with the full length console, but on the GS historic society docs, it only shows B-2. Mike Trommetter was kind enough to make me 2 different window stickers (one with the console and one without) just to be correct with one of the two. It is very possible that they goofed when ordering the car new and it was added on the assembly line because it belonged on there. I also guess it couldve been added at the dealership, but it was on the car when it was sold new.
Interestinguzzled: Is there a date code on the PS unit itself ? If so, I can check if its within a 2-3 week period of all the other accessory's, like the dist, manifold etc. Also, ever seen the pump pulley marked with yellow markings?
Can you decode this unit for me It appears to read 141 0, with a cover #5686555 Also, check the yellow marking's under the black paint of the pulley, its hard to read, but appears as.......70...34-something, and under it.....SP_ E or B?
Yellow markings on the pulley may well be junkyard crayon, adding to the possibility that someone added PS to a non-PS car...
I might agree, BUT.........Its under the black paint The dates are close enough, that once the car was picked up, possibly the owner couldn't live with a manual box, and had the dealer add it. Who knowsuzzled:
BOnoP, Ya know, this is the second time this week that you asked about date codes. If you had my book..........................:laugh: Duane
I cant argue that point. I have Mike Troms Daily Car Reports which fascinate me with the information, breakdown on option code's, totals on cars produced with every color available, SCO colors, transmission type totals, Stage 1, 455, 350 totals, option combinations, totals by assembly plants, etc, etc. Its awesome:TU: I haven't purchased your book yet, but have heard nothing but praise for the work you did in collecting this valueable info. Obviously, no GS, Skylark, owner should be without them, if there half as fanatical about having the dates line up correctly as I am, plus its quite enjoyable to find everything match up........Soooooooo, where do I send the money order??
The neat thing about my book is it will decode the date codes for any 65-72 GM vehicle. $44.50 to Classic Car Interiors 120 President Ave. Rutledge, Pa. 19070 and thanks. Duane
Generally the documents are very good, but I wouldn't consider them as 100% accurate. Keep in mind that they were completed by human beings, and occasional mistakes were made. A close freind recently purchased a 70 Stage 1 car with Sloan documentation. The Sloan information showed the car to have the F-41 suspension, sales code H6. The rear axle looks like it had never been removed from the car, and there were no boxed lower control arms or rear sway bar. The car is equipped with factory AC but the Sloan info showed no I6 sales code. It is obvious that the AC was not spliced into the firewall of the car, so I suspect there was an error in the docs that put the 6 in the H column instead of the I column. The question is did someone at GM make this mistake, or someone at the Sloan Museum? To err is human.
I know someone who had the same circumstance - the docs showed no air, but the car had air - looked factory. As it turns out, after some prior owner research, someone very talented put factory A/C in the vehicle in the early '70s
Marco. I suppose that it is possible the AC was subsequently added to the car, but it is far more likely that the mistake occurred with the documentation. Many of the AC components have a date code that closely matches the bulk of those on rest of the car. To assume that numbers and letters can't be transposed, or inserted into rows and columns erroneously, is to assume perfection. I have worked with numbers for 30 years, and have learned to double and triple check everything. Errors and omissions could cost me my professional license. Even after thirty years I still make the occasional mistake, I just hope I can catch them all before the product is delivered, however unlikely that may be. I spent quite a sum of money to get documentation on two of my cars from Wayne Roberts. When they arrived the documents were fraught with mis-spellings, and one with the dealer information omitted. I was able to find the dealer name within days. All I am saying is that mistakes of this sort are frequent occurences, and that this type of documentation is not immune from them.
There is another thing to consider, the vehicles were not always built exactly like the buildsheets show. I found that out from decoding original buildsheets and checking the date codes on the parts. Duane
as a man who worked in records for years, i concur that expecting 'perfection' is too much. going back through and posting new jobs to the records i occasionally found errors in my own previous work. and the work that I had done was far more accurate than the majority of the rest of what i was looking at. nowadays with computers most of the transcription errors have been eliminated. but remember that back then they were hand copying a great deal of information back and forth. every instance of human interaction with the data ( including the original posting ) introduces an error possibility.
