Looking for the connector and retainer that goes on GS air cleaner and connects to the hose from the canister. I hope I said that correctly LOL
If you mean the plastic air cleaner elbow for the hot-air intake....I should have one...will look on Mon.
Hi George, This is not the big elbow hot air intake up front. This is a small elbow and retainer that has a rubber hose that runs over to the charcoal canister. Thanks
Hi Gary, The part you are describing seems to be to be for the 1972 ram air cleaner which I have on my Buick. A small black plastic elbow with clip on the bottom of the driver's side of the ram air cleaner. Are you sure you have a 1970 ram air cleaner? I'm pretty sure the piece you are describing was for 1972, not 1970. In 1970, the hose should have ran from the charcoal cannister right to a port on the carburator.
Hi Gary, Check out the pic in the first post of this thread - is this the piece you are talking about? http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=208135&highlight=elbow
My car died Saturday due to no spark...and when I had the cleaner off I noticed a small round hole that had nothing attached. That could be it but the pic wasn't detailed enough to say yes or no. I briefly looked into the 70 book and thought I saw an elbow but will double check. It could be a 72 air cleaner I guess. I later hit the cd and printed out the pages and have them at home. Will check the cleaner and carb pic's to see again. Thanks for the info and I bet george will answer this before i can check. LOL I have a spare GS air cleaner and will check that one out as well later this week since its in storage. Thinking about it the canister did have wording on it and will have to check that as well. Might say what gets attached. Ive been so worried about wrapping up the resto and getting thinks fixed that I have not spent much time in the engine compartment and am not positive if any of the emission or vacuum lines etc are going to the proper places.
72 Air Cleaner has the small triangular scoop on the drivers side so that should tell you. If both your scoops are the same then it is 70-71 style. If you have the 70 style and the small plastic fitting then your car was rare california Emissions style air cleaner, Only Cal sold cars had Charcoal can in 70 . Hope this clears confusion. 71 had no fitting on air cleaner as hose attached at carb.
Also in 71 they had the hole in the air cleaner but it was just left empty. IF you have a 1/4" fitting in the front lower part of your carb you can run the hose there and do not need the fitting. That is how 71 did it.
well that could explain it yes my car was a Fremont CA built GS and delivered to a Buick Dealer in CA 94012 Long story when I got the car it had a canister with 3 ports and I thought it looked wrong from the books...so I bought a 2 ports canister...maybe that is the correct canister as well?Is the CA Emission in the books? I do not have the small triangle scoop either. hmmm I'm special then huh
I just finished restoring a 1970 GS 4 speed California car. It had the original air cleaner with the white elbow and the 3 port charcoal canister. I port went to tank, 1 port went to pcv and 1 port went to this fitting in air cleaner. The emission plastic vent and all lines in back by the tank are specific to the 70 only California cars. All the hard lines are repro by Inline Tube and fit very well. The plastic vent tank in the back is very hard to find also. I've attached a picture of a NOS white one (#1234556), the original white one and clip and the later black version. I thought the black one I just bought from Duane would fit my original 1972 GS air cleaner but it doesn't. However it could be trimmed to fit as Richard said. I looked for 5 years for the white one on Ebay before I found one. I'd say what it cost but my wife might read this. LOL Tom
Very interesting about the white elbow. I have the black elbow on my '72 ram air cleaner. Actually, the '72 ram air cleaner I have was missing the black elbow and clip when I bought it but my stock 350 2bbl air cleaner (before the 4bbl swap) had one on it which I swapped onto the ram air cleaner.
Hi Tom, Thanks for the information! Yes i would say I know what your talking about I have that 3 port canister and it came with car. I do have all that crazy fuel lines by the tank as well. Interesting though you said my pcv should go directly to the canister huh. Canister connects to what? Carb, pcv, fuel tank? Sounds like I will never find that elbow and my wife would kill me if I paid more than a lot for one as well LOL
Gary, The center port in the cannister would tee into the PCV according to one diagram I have seen. I don't hook that one up but leave it plugged. Tom
The 3rd hose from the charcoal can went to the PCV? My 70 assembly manual shows the 70 evaporative system with just a two port can just like in 71-72. This 1970 magazine picture tha appears to be a cal emmisions car and it appears to have only two hoses comming from the can as well.
I did not get the fender well in the shot but it just shows the two hoses. You can see the one going to the air cleaner.
Dave, I can see it in your pics. In my 70 assembly manual it shows the 3 port cannister but on a 6 cylinder engine? When I got the car it was an "original" 64,000 mile car. We all know how that can change over 40 years! I sent the cannister to Duane and he verified it as being correct? A picture of it is in his Resoration Guide. After working on these cars for several years I'm not always sure what was meant to be original by Buick is what was actually shipped from the factory. I would find it strange that both Gary's and mine came with the 3 port. If it was switched out by the previous owners they both would have had to find 6 cylinder Cailifornia cars to swipe them from? In the Sloan documentation wholesale car order form it shows the Evaporative Emmision System as an option, E5. It was required for California cars. It is possible that when ordered, cars in other states got the 2 port and California the 3 port?? These are the "mysteries" that make these older cars fun but challenging to work on. Tom
I see what you mean about the v6 and that canister looks like the one I have. this certainly is interesting and have heard Fremont built cars can be anything but the norm. how interesting in deed! thanks for all the great info.
Ron Klein has an 70 Stage1 AquaMist car that was sold new in Santa Barbara CA...he brought the car Sat to the show and I checked it out....60k original car....has a 3 port vacuum cannister as someone mentioned previously.
