FREE "Boycott China" bumper sticker

Certainly no insult intended toward any Chinese-American Buick fans, but there is nothing right about doing business with Communist China, today or any day. I find that a good way of curbing consumerist urges is to check the bottom of whatever I'm contemplating at Wal-Mart -- 95% of the time it's 'Made In China,' and I walk away, money saved for something made in this country.

This guy:

http://home.ioa.com/~vampire/id6.html



will snail-mail you a sharp bumper sticker for free. :TU: He won't even accept donations. Please pass this on to like-minded friends or other boards you contribute to, it isn't very well-publicized.

 

China is an odd place if you ask me. Seems like most of the folks there don't give a damn about politics much, they're just trying to live

I can't really find it in my heart to dislike them. I disagree with a lot of things the government of China does, but the Chinese people... They have children who know more about a group of American volunteers who fought for them over China and Burma in WWII than most any American children will, ever. And they actually still seem to appreciate the Fei hu dui and what they did. Being Memorial Day and all it puzzles me that the Flying Tigers are more well known in China than in the US. If I ask a group of teenagers in the US who Claire Chennault was, they'd probably say, "Didn't she live in France or something?" Chinese kids might actually know.

 

No quarrel with the good people of the world. People everywhere are largely as they have been forever; unconcerned/unaware of politics and interested in raising a family and owning a car (pref. a Buick). It's their government that undervalues its currency and buys our debt. We are, by gobbling up artificially cheap consumer goods (and cars, soon), financing our own marginalization.

There's a fine book out titled Three Billion New Capitalists that describes the new generation we'll have to compete with on the global market. They are, in ways, more American than Americans at this point.

And for a glimpse of what an emasculated America would be like, you can't beat Philip Dick's Man in the High Castle.

 

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The main bodies that PROFORM sells are made in TAIWAN, along with alot of their other products. Recently the main bodies and bowls that HOLLEY have made are now from TAIWAN. A major corp. like HOLLEY can't even afford to make there own products here anymore. Too much greed. Too bad for the usa. jerry :rant:

 

China is one of the main reasons that the U.S. dollar is still worth anything. China has been buying dollars, to keep our economy afloat, so we can keep buying all the things we do from other countries. Since we have transferred our high tech industries to India......China and India are working together, to become the worlds high tech leaders. Keeping in mind, China could loose the combined population of the U.S. , and Russia, and still have enough people to populate the entire world, the only thing that gives us the edge, is military tech, and nukes. That edge is being deminished , as everone else catches up. Man, I gotta quit reading, and put my head in the sand. Ignorance is truly, bliss.

 

That guy stole my idea..........that is what I always wanted to do. China is the reason why everything you buy today ain't worth a crap and you have to re-buy it all over again later after you send it off to a landfill somewhere. I haven't been able to buy a decent phone since 1977.....they're all made in China and they're junk! :rant:

Any company who made anything good in this country is no longer in business. If we go to war with China, we'll have to order the bombs from them and send 'em right back there! ou:

 

The sad fact is whoever can build it cheaper and faster wins.
They don't have trade unions to deal with over there.
It sickened me when I saw "Made in China" on the brake rotors I bought for the wife's Jeep a couple weeks ago. And I didn't buy the cheapest ones available either!
Of course, Diamler-Chrysler made the OEM ones so thin that you aren't allowed to turn them down.
"NS, Non serviceable" :rant:

Boy, you got that right!
I've gone through about 4 sets of phones since moving into my house in '91.
And the sound quality sucks on even the more expensive ones I have bought, and then thrown away after 5 years.

And yet, the 50+ year old rotary dial phone in my parents basement still works like a charm.

 

Sure, boycott China.....

So in otherwords you will have to make everything yourself. Not that I like it, or agree that we should be trading with them, because I believe we should NOT until they dump the commy gov and actually reconize human rights... :bglasses:

 

Back in the late 70's the economic condition of this coutry was not in the best shape. Although not my first car, the first car I purchased on terms was with a loan for 18.75% interest. The cars being produced at that time were pure junk and the labor unions were striking. It only took one move to another country to open the floodgates for all the other competitors. It was a matter of survival. Other industries followed suit. First it was Mexico and when that wasn't cheap enough it became China. Now it's moving towards Korea, Vietnam and other coutries. It's all in the pursuit of the almighty dollar.
It's to the point now, at least in some segments of my industry (apparel) that if U.S. companies were cut off from foreign suppliers, it could not recover. In the transition this country has sold the machinery, technology was given away (regardless of what anyone tells you, the minute you put a product into China it can be and is being knocked off) and lost the good old American know how.
Many try to make this a political issue. Democrats will tell you that we should not be there and if they were in control they would bring back production to the U.S. They are lying, pure and simple. They do not have control over the CEOs of this country. Most are rewarded for cost savings and they will sell their owns souls for the prize.
Republicans will tell you that to be a partner with China opens the opportunites for a democracy and that the people of China will begin to reject Communism. Admirable but a pipe dream.
People of any country will not revolt unless the control of govenrnment drives them to the brink of desperation. The people of China are experiencing personal economic growth as they take on more of what we have. They are willing to stay under the thumb of the govenrment as this happens. Their traditions run deep.
What this country is not realizing is that if and when it does happen (it may be over Taiwan) and there is conflict with China, that every American owned asset that is within their borders will belong to them. If we want it we will have to fight for it. And at that point China's black sheep of the family, North Korea, will be welcomed back into the fray with open arms. And what has China done over the past few years with the money? They have beefed up ther military, space and nuclear programs. Why? Do they actually think that we are more of a threat to them since we have gotten into bed with them? We are financing their infrastructure. We are asleep.

 

Ignorance is just ignorance, most of the time.

If some of you guys don't believe in free trade, stick with the "Buy USA" slogan. Essentially, to hell with everyone else. That'd be more even handed and there's no point singling out any country in particular. They all are having the same problems balancing trade, keeping unemployment down, reducing poverty, and keeping the citizens reasonably happy.

Why not boycott Italian meatballs, polish sausage, french bread, and english muffins while you're at it. People in Philly boycott New York Cheddar Cheese and people in New York boycott Philadelphia Cream Cheese. The possibilities are endless.

My .02.

 

I kinda get tired of seeing "made in china", "made in Japan", "made in Vietnam", "made in Taiwan", blah blah blah.

When I see something "made in U.S.A.", I finally see something different for a change. Only thing I have bought from another country excluding food that is good would be my Nike shoes and my computer. Otherwise, I've seen more bad quality than good come from any of those places. o No:

 

Ok Mike...

How this, FREE trade with FREE countries, that's the difference. And it is NOT a repub-demo thing, they both sold the U.S. people out! :shock:

 

Excellent!!! Can we change it slightly? FAIR trade with FREE countries.

:bglasses:

Dan-how long are we going to go on without meeting? Are you planning on any shows this year in the area? o No:

 

China and Mexico have become a great threat American workers and manufactuers. I have to go to lean manufacturing classes at work and learn all these words and terms from China and Japan. My father and three of his brothers seved in World War II and my brother served in Vietnam so that we wouldn't have to speak their language and live under communist or other govenments. Now, I am learning japanesse words and work ethics and I can't believe it. Everything I buy from the far east is of poor quality and I try to avoid those products if possible. I have seen many of American jobs lost first hand. Even Levis Blue jeans are made out of the country. How about craftsman tools? Try to find a pair of sneekers made in America, forget it! I even saw a pin at a hardware store that said "Buy American", flipped it over and it was made in China! We are having a hard time finding steel as raw material at work, the prices are crazy thanks to China buying it up! Hope some tariffs are put in place soon! Mark

 

I'd like to gently suggest that WWII be left out of it. The war is over. Japan and China are not traditionally Allies in time of war-quite the opposite in fact, first off, and secondly, Chaing kai-Shek was America's ally in WWII and the US basically dropped the ball in China after (and even during) the war, concerning China, paving the way for a complete Communist take over. Sure, the Brits should take some heat for all this, too. Mao waited until the National Chinese government was too weak to effectively resist- the Chinese pretty much liked us, and it really was as much our fault as it was theirs that the country...oh, whatever, I'm boring myself, it doesn't matter what happened to China in the years after WWII in terms of this discussion.

The point is: Let's leave '40s and '50s politics out of it, it's worse than irrelevant, it simply muddles the issue.

 

Chris,
The same communist political belief system in place in China is just as it was in the 40's and 50's. How can you say "that it was just as much our fault as it was theirs" that after WWII it remained that way? That is ridiculous!!!!!!
It's this same type of logic that lays blame on the U.S. today for every other country's ills. China is a communist country because they chose and continue to be a communist country. I don't know how old you are but you need to put aside the modern college textbook mantra and talk to the relatives of those Chinese who paid, AND CONTINUE TO PAY with their lives when trying to oppose the government.

 

I have a remote control for the TV, one of those universal ones. It says "Made in Taiwn" on it. Taiwan is mispelled on the little sticker inside the battery cover.

Also, the directions where it tells you how to program it to your TV are misspelled. It says "#1 Tum on TV."

 

Mark, feel free to disagree, but it has nothing to do with this topic. As a suggestion, may I mention you should find a less insulting way to disagree with people in the future? What I know or don't has nothing to do with my age, and it's patronising and insulting for you to assume I'm some punk-ass kid. I haven't set foot in college (I actually went to University, thanks very much) since 1992. I studied engineering, by the way, not History. My study of history, particularly that of WWII, goes far beyond a collegiate overview in some "modern textbook" that preaches "mantra"- it's a personal interest that has spanned over 20 years.

You may have insight into Chinese-US-British relations during the '30s, '40s and '50s that I don't. Then again, you probably don't, since Mao Tse Tung, the Communist gureilla leader, was fighting a Civil War with Generalissimo Chiang kai-Shek, the Nationalist Chinese leader, before and even during WWII. Mao Tse Tung wasn't leader in China until 1949. In the '50s, Mao broke from the Soviet type of Communism. So maybe, just maybe, I know a little about 20th century Chinese history. Chiang kai-Shek studied military, not socialist, matters when he trained in the USSR in the '20s, by the way. If you'll excuse me for syaing it, saying China was Communist in the '40s...is a trifle misleading. Chiang was elected President of China in 1948 for God's sake

Either way, how can you expect what you posted to do anything other than piss me off?

 

Manufacturing is the wealth builder in any economy. As the jobs move, so does the strength of the USA.

In twenty years, the USA will be behind China in terms of econonmic strength.

Mark my words.......What is happening now is EXACTLY like what happened during the industrial revolution here. Cheap labor and resources made the USA the strongest country in the world.

The sad part is the politics in Washington and in board rooms across the USA are hastening the demise......

 

Has anyone here heard of NESARA ( National Economic Security and Reformation Act) ? This Act is on the books in Congress,but has a gag order on it for the time being. I have heard good and bad about this. This would be a good item for all of us to learn and voice opinion about. It looks like this reformation act would have a HUGE impact on our way of life.