Hi.. I just spent an hour 'surfing' to see if I could find why my cowl tag trim number was different from the sales code number (1972). It is, apparently, by design. The sales codes was 245, white bench, split seat with armrest The Fisher body cowl tag is 135 I finally found a conversion chart posted at Atlanta Buick. http://www.atlantabuick.com/images/Restoration/72Trim.jpg Did they do this because all the divisions had different sales codes, but the seats were the same..? If not, and if everything was unique, why have two numbers for the same thing..? I know somebody knows this... Stanley
Just to add to what Stanley posted, strangely enough, it started in 1972. I wonder if this two code system continued on through later years as well... o No:
a little more info I looked again at the Fisher table at the Atlanta site.. I did see that some of the same sales codes did point to different actual seats. I think this was because the same sales code on a different model meant a different seat. Example: a 128 sales codes on a Skylark got you a 108 bench seat but a 128 sales codes on a Skylark Custom got you a 138 split seat with an armrest. Maybe that was the whole reason...so they could simplify the ordering..and then match the sales code to the model back at the Fisher plant. Perhaps it was viewed as too cumbersome to have all the variations (that whole table) out in the field with salespeople making too many mistakes. Anybody else got any ideas..? Stanley
Some additional information... Also, if you'll notice, Fisher code 138 is for the GS models with black bucket seats (Buick sales code 368) and for GS models with a black notchback bench seat (Buick sales code 248) . The cowl trim tag contained additional information for the seats. Bucket seats were A51 and the notchback bench seat was A65. For GSs with black bucket seats, the following would be stamped on the cowl - TR 138 A51. For GSs with black notchback bench seats, the following would be stamped on the cowl - TR 138 A65
That's what got me started Yes..that's what got me started on this. I was checking the cowl tag vs the Sloan data.. I have a 135 A65...white bench, split seat with armrest (notchback). But Sloan called it a 245 trim code from the sales data. Maybe that's why GM headquarters needed to be a big building with lots of people running around... Stanley
I think we have been over this before. The 135 code is the Fisher Trim Code and the GM Sales code is 245. Two different companies so two different codes. Why,,, I don't know....o No:
Re: That's what got me started Yep, It's a conspiracy for 'Job Security' uzzled: I still see this go on today in the workplace... :spank:
