Doing research for 17s on a 65

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  1. Dr. Evil

    Dr. Evil Silver Level contributor

    I'm looking around and doing research in anticipation of a disk brake upgrade. Ideally I'd like 17s but would consider 18s. As I understand it 4.5" of backspacing is about where I need to be. I'd love to be able to fit some 255 up front and a 275 rear. 275 square would be good too but not a deal breaker either way. Theres some info here and there and I think my plans would work but I'd hate to buy the things and they rub or not fit altogether.
    Does anyone see any issues or potential issues here?
    My time frame is probably Jan - Feb
     
  2. Dr. Evil

    Dr. Evil Silver Level contributor

  3. DugsSin

    DugsSin Well-Known Member

    Darn nice choice for rims :TU: hope you can find the correct fitment.
     
  4. 1989GTA

    1989GTA Silver Level contributor

    I have the American Racing VN500s on my 65 Skylark. Fronts are 17" x 8 with 5" backspacing. I have Nitto 555 17ZR245 on them. I had the 255's on there but ran into some rubbing issues with the 5" backspacing. I would have needed a 5.25" backspacing to clear using the 255s. I also have the 11" disc brake conversion on the front. That would have to be factored in.

    On the rear I am running the same Nitto 555 but with the 17ZR285 tire. The wheels are the American Racing VN500 17" x 9.5" and 6.375" back spacing. However I am running the 1971 8.5" rear axle which is 1" wider than the stock 8.2". So you would have to subtract .5". Now we pushed out on the rear wheel well some to gain additional clearance. Also did some work on the inner fender well to make it about even with the frame. I believe I have enough clearance to fit a 295 tire if I wanted. One more thing I also have the disc brake conversion on the rear.

    Not sure if any of this will do you any good as mine is not exactly stock with the disc brake conversions and the Buick Skylark 71 rear axle.

    Edit: added a couple of older pictures. The one on the right shows the clearance on the rear and you can see we rolled the outer rim some.
     

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  5. Joe65SkylarkGS

    Joe65SkylarkGS 462 ina 65 Lark / GN

    I have a thread I bumped it up to the top.

    On this topic bro. I can't get a link to work foro m my cell for some reason.
     
  6. 1989GTA

    1989GTA Silver Level contributor

  7. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    You are leaving out the most important variable, rim width.
     
  8. Dr. Evil

    Dr. Evil Silver Level contributor

    Larry, I'm looking at 17x8s square if possible.
     
  9. Dr. Evil

    Dr. Evil Silver Level contributor

    1989GTA, your setup is close to what I'm after. Very nice build BTW, I've read a lot on it.

    I'm really not trying to put the cart before the horse on mine. Not that my funds will really allow me to anyways.
    I've got to figure out brakes, ride height and wheels/tires.
     
  10. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    4.5" of back spacing on an 8" wide wheel is perfect for the 70-72 Skylark/GS. The 65 cars need more back spacing, more like 5".
     
  11. 1989GTA

    1989GTA Silver Level contributor

    I looked up some 275 x 17 tires and the minimum wheel width they recommend is 9". 9.5" is ideal. Something to think about.
     
  12. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    275's are pushing the limits of the '65 wheelwell. They'll fit but wheel offset has to be near perfect (+/- 0.5")

    If you are putting disks on the rear, that may push the wheels out even further.

    Some 64-67 GM A-bodies used a narrow rear ('64 Olds, 12 bolt Chevelle), some are 1" wider (GTO and Skylark).

    There are wheel fitment tools out there, that's almost a necessity in your case. Anything else is just a guess.

    Wheel spacers can be used to make a small adjustment to move the tire out, but there's no way to move a poor-fitting combo inwards..... although you could have the rear narrowed.
     
  13. Dr. Evil

    Dr. Evil Silver Level contributor

    Well, I think I've got a direction of travel figured out on some of this. After some research I'm going with a set of machined hubs and brackets that allow me to run a disc brake setup off an LS1 F body 1998-2002. That'll give me 12" rotors up front and two piston calipers without changing the track much if any at all. I can run the same on the rear but still need a bit more research to see if it pushes the track out any and figure the parking brake out.

    As for wheels I'd like to stay with 17x8 square, probably a 245/40/17 tire
     
  14. Dr. Evil

    Dr. Evil Silver Level contributor

    Placed an order today. Pics, specs and info to follow in about a week. Went with US MAG U109 Bandit in 17x8
     
  15. BillA

    BillA Well-Known Member

    Upgrade the brakes first and then start measuring. Otherwise you're just guessing and could be making a very expensive mistake. I have a 64 with a slightly narrowed 12 bolt and it'd be real tight fit with 275's in the rear. Right now I have 255's on 16"x8" rim with 5" backspacing. The shock mounts could be a restriction unless you go to a 16"-17" rim. Up front I have 16"x7" rims with 4" of backspacing and run a 225 tire. The car has lowering springs and the clearance is pretty close. I have an aftermarket disc brake kit that pushes the mating surface out about 3/8" on each side but some aftermarket disc brake kits maintain the same track as the drums. That's why you have to install the brakes first and measure.
     
  16. gs66

    gs66 Silver Level contributor

  17. devildog93

    devildog93 Member

    Dr. Evil did you get the wheels in yet? I'm interested to see how they finally fit.
     
  18. Dr. Evil

    Dr. Evil Silver Level contributor

    Yes, I made another thread on it with pics.
     
  19. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

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