Compression - not even close to advertised

Discussion in ''Da Nailhead' started by BuickMike, Nov 16, 2015.

  1. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Normal valve sizes are 1.875" intake & 1.500" exhaust from '57-'66 364/401/425. The lower performance 364/2bbl. low compression engines from '57-'59 "sometimes" have smaller intake & exhaust valves, although they can accommodate the larger valves. These 2bbl. heads are supposed to have smaller combustion chambers cc's also. As far as I know the ports sizes are the same. The ONLY real differences I know about are the seals added to the intakes on the '66 heads.
    Also, don't forget the stock tulip intake valve have a 3.7-4.0 cc capacity. So to increase or play around with compression ratio in each separate combustion chamber to equalize cc's all one has to do is to use a "flat" faced valves. On engines that have tuliped exhaust valves even more compression can be realized with flat faced valves.
     
  2. ttotired

    ttotired Well-Known Member

    I wont get to play with the car until the weekend, so if I can get a set of valves out then, I will measure them, not so sure on cc,ing
    the heads though as I dont really know how (I assume you would fill the chamber with clay and then see how much water it displaces?), but I dont have the clay (I do have water though :))

    Mick
     
  3. BuickMike

    BuickMike Well-Known Member

    Good information. I would really like to know if there were in fact 364 heads with less CC's. Any machine shop should be able to CC your heads, however this is how it is done:

    https://youtu.be/V7V40ZWNgCo
     
  4. ttotired

    ttotired Well-Known Member

    I cant see why I cant do that, provided my valves dont leak :)

    Mick
     
  5. ttotired

    ttotired Well-Known Member

    Ok, I got 129ml, so thats 12.9cc I think?

    So thats on a 1958 364 40 series head

    I havnt pulled the valves yet, but I think there are 2 valve sizes, but I thought it was valve stem length that was different?

    Mick
     
  6. ttotired

    ttotired Well-Known Member

    Pulled 1 set of valves and got

    Intake are 1.875", but the exhaust are smaller at 1.427, valve length is 4.787"

    Mick
     
  7. gsgtx

    gsgtx Silver Level contributor

    has to be 129cc,
     
  8. ttotired

    ttotired Well-Known Member

    Thats what I was thinking, then I got a niggling doubt in my head and, well , you know :)
     
  9. BuickMike

    BuickMike Well-Known Member

    Sounds like the taller pistons will be just fine then since the combustion chamber seems to be the same. The later heads have larger exhaust valves (1.50")
     
  10. ttotired

    ttotired Well-Known Member

    Cheers Mike

    Might do some more measuring once I get everything clean

    Surely 1/16" wont make any problems going by where the ridge from the top ring is, but far better to be safe than sorry :)

    Mick
     

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