changed points now wont start!

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by 72 pet chicken, Nov 28, 2003.

  1. 72 pet chicken

    72 pet chicken i dont wanna be a pirate!

    i changed the points, cap, rotor and plugs on my 72 this morning and now it wont start. i know i need to gap the points still. will this cause it not to start? anyhow, whats the best way to turn the engine over so i can gap them properly? any tips?

    pete
     
  2. 68 LeSabre 4dr

    68 LeSabre 4dr Well-Known Member

    Pete have someone tap the starter till you get to a high spot on the lobe in the distributor .Set points to 18 with a feeler gauge and then set them with a dwell meter to 28-30 after you get it running. Check timing when done .
    That should do it ....... We hope !:laugh: :TU:
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2003
  3. GSThunder

    GSThunder Dejavu

    Hey Bruce, I think you mean set the point gap to .016"-.018" and then the dwell to 28-30* with a dwell meter after the engine is running.
    I doubt the engine will run with the points set to .030"...:Do No:
     
  4. 72 pet chicken

    72 pet chicken i dont wanna be a pirate!

    ok... heres a dumb question... where is the dwell and how do i check it? on the carb right? :confused: where can i get a dwell meter and how much? :confused: think i might be in over my head...

    pete
     
  5. jamyers

    jamyers 2 gallons of fun

    Yup, you'll need a dwell meter of some sort, available at finer parts stores or Sears near you.

    On the side of the distributor, you should have a little metal 'door' that slides up, inside is the allen wrench fitting on the points. Once you set the point gap, button the dist back up, hook up your new dwell meter (they normally connect to the battery and one side of the coil, I forget which side.), start the engine, and you now get to enjoy the fun of sticking an allen wrench into the side of the dist., while not letting the fan smach your hand or launch the allen wrench across the garage.:gt:

    Anyway, with the engine running, you adjust the dwell. Basically, it's a more accurate way to set the point gap, since you do it with the engine running.:Smarty:

    I don't know what the point gap or dwell is for a '72, but the above posts should get you there!

    Good Hunting!

    James
     
  6. GS1

    GS1 Well-Known Member

    Bad condenser

    I have had similar experiences with the problem of not starting after a tune up. One was due to improper point setting which has been described above. The other was a faulty condenser that was brand new. If all other efforts fail, I would change the condenser again.
     
  7. 68 LeSabre 4dr

    68 LeSabre 4dr Well-Known Member

    Yep Al , In a hurry to go out the door last night , as you said .Glad you caught that the poor guy would have had a lot fun getting her running .

    Good luck :pp
     
  8. snowmad

    snowmad Well-Known Member

    fixed it Pete ?
    = got it running yet? :Do No:
    Lars
     
  9. Rivman

    Rivman Senior Ottawa Buick Guy

    Setting Dwell

    Pete - If your car has a slip clutch fan - hold a fan blade (before you start it) and that will eliminate having to play Russian Roulette with your knuckles and the fan blades. You can also tie the blade in a stationary position with a bungee chord, but make damn sure it's very secure! If it comes loose it could destroy a lot of radiator or whatever else it decides to chew up! If it's a solid fan Good Luck!
     
  10. 72 pet chicken

    72 pet chicken i dont wanna be a pirate!

    got it running now. just needed to gap the points. it was actually really easy. doesnt seem to miss anymore durring acceleration. was trying to time it though and the light i bought doesnt seem to work. any clues?

    pete
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Pete,
    What do you mean, it doesn't work? It doesn't flash or you don't see the timing mark? More details.
     
  12. snowmad

    snowmad Well-Known Member

    Turn around?

    The "pickup" thing you "hock" on to the no:1 spark wire, my be turned he wrong way (they usually gut some kind off indication witch side "toward plug"
    Lars
     
  13. 72 pet chicken

    72 pet chicken i dont wanna be a pirate!

    no flash. ill have to check on the part that goes on the #1 plug. as far as the others... negetive on the battery positive grounded?!?!?

    pete
     
  14. snowmad

    snowmad Well-Known Member

    Positive grounded no no no!
    Lets star all over again.
    I assume the timing light got 3 wires.
    1. usually with a red "clamp" = positive on battery
    2. usually with a black "clamp" = negative on battery
    3. An inductive "pickup" = this one you connect/ hock over no1 spark wire! This is the one i think is hocked on with wrong "side towards" the spark plug.... (one of the 6938 mistakes i already made and learned from "the hard way")
    If i lost you somewhere..... what brand/type timing light did you bay?
    Lars
     
  15. 72 pet chicken

    72 pet chicken i dont wanna be a pirate!

    I GUESS THAT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE. ILL TRY IT AGAIN WHEN I GET HOME. BOY DO I FEEL DUMB! :rolleyes:

    ILL CHECK ON THE BRAND OF THE LIGHT. :grin:

    THANKS...
     

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