Cast Iron Timing Cover?

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Duffey, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. Duffey

    Duffey Well-Known Member

    Saw one pop up on eBay. Seller claims "These prime faster, have higher oil pressure, leak less and wear five times longer. Cast iron expands from the gears less when the engine is hot and if it gets smacked by a thrown rock, it's not going to bust like aluminum."

    I can understand the rock part, but is there much "weight" to the rest of his argument? I'm trying to keep the engine reasonably light but he's got my attention...
     
  2. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Think might be a 300 size only cover.
     
  3. Jim Nichols

    Jim Nichols Well-Known Member

    It was an industrial/Marine cover. More common with 225 oddfire V6. May have been used on 300's in boats.
     
  4. philbquick

    philbquick Founders Club Member

    A lot of Mercury I/O drives used Buick V6s. Yes, there are advantages to cast iron.
     
  5. Dwayne B

    Dwayne B Well-Known Member

    I had actually bought one on Ebay A few years ago and after researching it they were used on marine engines and the water passages were different than A car so I canceled my order.
     
  6. Duffey

    Duffey Well-Known Member

    Ohh ok. So what destroys normal covers? All I've seen is the scoring from the water pump impeller. Does any amount of scoring render the cover unusable?
     
  7. MrSony

    MrSony Well-Known Member

    Steel gears eat the aluminum over time. Change your oil every 3000 miles and it may never happen. But guess how many actually did?
     
  8. Jim Nichols

    Jim Nichols Well-Known Member

    I always use the booster plate. Either T/A or Melling.
     
  9. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    What would have been nice is an iron liner inside the pump cavity:cool:
     
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  10. Duffey

    Duffey Well-Known Member

    So the booster plate protects the cover from the water pump?
     
  11. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    No, the booster plate goes between the oil filter adapter, and the oil pump.
     
  12. TABuickMike

    TABuickMike Michael Tomaszewski Jr

    I had a local guy bring one in. It was on the 350 in his boat. We cleaned it up and did the oil pump assembly on it.

    DSC_0370.jpg DSC_0374.jpg
     
  13. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    That’s cool, but the only advantage I can see is the oil pump being an iron cavity, betcha it’s heavy
     
  14. Duffey

    Duffey Well-Known Member

    So what is different about the marine engine? Why would the water passages need to be different?
     
  15. TABuickMike

    TABuickMike Michael Tomaszewski Jr

    The water passages aren't different, you can see they're the same in the pictures above. A marine engine pumps water from whatever body of tater that the boat is in (fresh or salt) through the engine for cooling, aka no additives to prevent corrosion like in automotive coolant. Therefore an aluminum timing cover would fail fairly quickly if not properly cared for, where the iron would be more resilient.

    It also helps with regards to the oil pump clearances since the iron cover will expand and contract less than an aluminum would with water temperature fluctuations. Say you drive the boat, stop for a bit, the water in the engine heats up, then you start it up and immediately cold water is flushed through the engine.
     
  16. DEADMANSCURVE

    DEADMANSCURVE my first word : truck

    hmmmm . interesting . sure heavier but seems a lot more durable .
    edit - used one $200 . so not terribly out of line price wise if in very nice shape . especially considering it's a marine part . one thing they mentioned was to watch out for the salt water use versions .
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2019
  17. Dwayne B

    Dwayne B Well-Known Member

    The one's I have seen aren't set up for the water bypass, the small line that goes from the thermostat housing to the back of the cover. I think that was the concern I had when I was thinking about buying one.
     
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  18. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    I remembered what the difference is. IMG_0089.JPG :D:D
     
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