! ! ! Car won't start, need some urgent expertise and help ! ! !

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by EEE, Oct 28, 2015.

  1. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    Not too sure when it started, but theres actually two smaller wires at the starter that supply voltage to the terminal block. Theres a 3rd for the crank signal. The two other wires are for the entire vehicle LIGHTING SYSTEM and the 2nd is for "ALL OTHER" stuff. Both run to the terminal block, but both are also supposed to have fusible links AT THE STARTER END. Separate the bulkhead connector and check for voltage on the engine bay side. That will eliminate all the stuff inside. That may have started in 1968... not too sure on the date on that. Notice two Fusible Links at top of pic... ws

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  2. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Fusible links started in '67 for GM.
     
  3. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    Like I said, if you are still having trouble today you'll likely be able to get some assistance from other competitors.
     
  4. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    This isn't a '66 wiring diagram, it's later. '66 is similar to the pic below except those connections are moved from the starter solenoid and to the junction block

    In '66, there is a heavy red wire coming off the junction block on the inner fender that supplies power to the fuse block (and rest of car). As Tom said, no fusible link for '66. It WOULD be a good idea to eventually splice in a fusible link there as a prevention measure.... in the event of a short somewhere, it will burn out before the rest of your wiring (or car) does. You can buy a length with terminal installed at NAPA for a few bucks.

    Another heavy wire at the junction block comes from the alternator.

     
  5. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    Another 'upgrade' is to mount a Ford style solenoid up away from the starter. Starter-mounted solenoids may get difficult to trigger due to age, heat, or a weak 12v trigger source. The remote solenoid will more easily trigger when the key is turned.

    MAD Enterprises sells a complete kit called the 'Start'm up' kit:
    http://www.madelectrical.com/catalog/st-1.shtml

    Here's a good article on how it's installed:
    http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/148-0312-chevrolet-no-start-fix/


    The remote solenoid is also a popular 'fix' for lawn tractors that only go 'click' when the key is turned. I put John Deere kits on my JD425 and even my Kubota B2100.
     
  6. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    '67 sounds about right with a multitude of DOT safety mandates. I always like the idea of the Ford solenoid, just for ease of thumb button for bumping timing. That Delco unit was one of GMs few weak points IMHO.

    I still look for side marker lights for a 68 model year on some of the other older lesser known models. ws
     
  7. RiviRich

    RiviRich Member

    Talked to you yesterday at the track in Tucson, Rich aka rivirich or Sabrerattler. GM used a thing called a fuse link wire at the solenoid like last 3 inches. Can't remember which of the wires on the solenoid it is, but if you buy a "fuse link repair kit" it will have instructions. The wire up to the coil and distributor is a "resister wire" so you only get 9 volts to the points and won't burn them up unless you've changed the whole system over to run with a true 12 volt coil then you have to change the distributor to remove the points or run a separate resister.
     
  8. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

  9. EEE

    EEE Straight out of lo-cash!

    Thanks for all the help guys! Drove with The Crop Duster yesterday ms it took a whole to sort out some problems, and it was raining, but made it to Phoenix, and are about to head over to the track. The blue 6 second Corvette rolled in ar 4:30 am.. Ouch. We have a new ignition switch we'll try today, and hopefully that clears the starter issues. No points, so no resistor wire.

    Thanks again! I'll check in later..
     
  10. EEE

    EEE Straight out of lo-cash!

    Awesome pic! Thanks!
     
  11. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    Keep rolling!

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  12. 67skylark27

    67skylark27 Brett Jaloszynski

    Pretty cool to see your car pop up on my Facebook Hot Rod link!!!!
     
  13. EEE

    EEE Straight out of lo-cash!

    Leaving Phoenix..
     
  14. EEE

    EEE Straight out of lo-cash!

    Arrived at the last track.. Ten hours on the road.
     
  15. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    Home stretch!
     
  16. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

  17. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

  18. EEE

    EEE Straight out of lo-cash!

    Thanks for sharing the pics Randall!

    It was a cool event to attend, and I'm still feeling pretty beat, lol..
     
  19. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    The closest I get to being able to spectate is go through the photos :)
     

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