Car will not start, Please Help!

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Jimmy12, Mar 3, 2020.

  1. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

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    So it looks like the one with two wires are one from the condenser and the other wire is the one that goes to the ignition coil.
     
  2. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Gage Park
     
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  3. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I've never seen that before. There is a lead that connects from the base plate to a screw holding the Vacuum advance canister. That's a ground lead. The condenser lead should attach only at the screw holding the lead from the - side of the coil.

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  4. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    So it looks like the screw from the canister has a wire that goes to a plate of some sort. Do u think I should rearrange these?
     
  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Look at the upper right picture in my last post. That is a ground wire. That has nothing to do with the condenser, it goes from the base plate to the VA mounting screw. There should only be one lead from the condenser. It should go to the SCREW on the points set. The condenser lead along with the lead from the - side of the coil go to the SCREW. There shouldn't be any other leads. Maybe take the rotor off and take a picture from the top.
     
  6. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Copy, I just did your test as well. Got 5.2 V on first test and 9.5V on second test. I’m in the process of pullin out the spark plugs.
     
  7. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    I took it out since I’ll reinstall it 55748D15-1818-42F8-8C3D-DD92650C1A4D.jpeg C1FD82AF-E493-4AA3-9265-47DAA20A69FD.jpeg C737D2FE-87F6-44C6-9822-975FDE98C370.jpeg
     
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Perfect, those are the correct readings. We know your resistance is correct and the bypass is working. My question now is the extra wires I am seeing. Just for my sanity:), I called another V8 member very familiar with points. The only leads connected to the points screw are the condenser lead, and the - side coil lead.
     
  9. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    OK, now I can see it better. That should be fine. Looks like the alternate ground lead is connected to a points mounting screw instead of directly to the base plate. Verify your point gap, and then put it back in on the compression stroke.
     
  10. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    I dont get the redundant wire to the points base. The distributor itself it the ground with the points being the switch turning the coil on and off. The condenser is there to help keep the points from arcing. For grins, did you count the teeth on the gear 350 and 455 gears differ by one tooth and the distributors otherwise are interchangeable. ws
     
  11. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    I will do that now. I took out the plugs and they were definitely wet. They reeeked of fuel, I don’t have a blow torch unfortunately so I just wiped them down and was gonna wait a little while before throwing them back in their spots
     
  12. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    Make sure that choke plate is OPEN. ws
     
  13. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    I left it open all night.
     
  14. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    Spent my working life at 3501 south Pulaski (Crawford Ave. if yer from the city). ws
     
  15. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    You need to either clean the plugs good or replace them, and have a dwell meter hooked-up to measure dwell while cranking.
     
  16. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    Its gotta stay open when youre cranking it. Manually pump the gas if you think it needs more. Dont put your face over the carb when the wife cranks it either!:eek: ws
     
  17. 64 skylark mike

    64 skylark mike Well-Known Member

    If I remember right .016 gap with a feeler gage is pretty close for point gap for starting. Should be real easy to set that gap on the high lobes of the distributer before you put it back in.
     
  18. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Nice! That’s right by Paisanos Pizza i used to go there as a kid.
     
  19. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    I’m pretty sure that’s the highest point they open up AA5059FE-9999-452A-8939-F35D2B1E1C8D.jpeg
     
  20. BuickV8Mike

    BuickV8Mike SD Buick Fan

    It should be smooth not pinching. And when you rotate the shaft, as they come off the lobe they must close for a bit.
     

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