Buick red engine paint comparison test

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by 87GN_70GS, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    I decided to spray some test samples on paper and do a direct comparison of available spray can red engine paints to the discontinued Krylon Buick Red. The 3 I used were Krylon 2114, Duplicolor brake caliper paint BCP100, and Duplicolor engine paint DE1653. The results speak for themselves and what you see in the pics is how the 3 actually differ. I used 2 light coats of Duplicolor engine primer grey, 1 light and 2 medium coats of color, allowed 24 hrs to dry. The DE1653 is a little bit lighter in color than the other 2 , and the BCP100 most closely matched the 2114. 20181012_142114.jpg 20181012_142130.jpg 20181012_142146_001.jpg 20181012_142233.jpg 20181012_142114.jpg 20181012_142130.jpg 20181012_142146_001.jpg 20181012_142233.jpg
     
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  2. breakinbuick11

    breakinbuick11 Platinum Level Contributor

    Thanks for doing this! I have 1 can of 2114 left, so it was time to start looking for an alternative. The caliper paint is definitely close for a non concours guy like me
     
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  3. Luxus

    Luxus Gold Level Contributor

    Same here. I try to do it right, but I'm not going to spend a small fortune to track down the correct out of production paint.
     
  4. GSX 554

    GSX 554 Gold Level Contributor

    The Bill Hirsch engine paint is almost a exact match too . Plus its good to 500 degrees . I posted pictures on here in another thread
     
  5. Grandpas67

    Grandpas67 Well-Known Member

    So which one most closely represents the factory color? The one on the left looks lighter than the 2 to the right. The 2 to the right look the same to me, but I'm also colorblind (red/green) deficiency. I can tell it's red, but couldn't say which shade of red it is.
     
  6. Matt Knutson

    Matt Knutson Well-Known Member

    Krylon 2114 looks best to me, but, what do I know - I'm still using the Dupli-Color 1608 1200* stuff.
     
  7. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    Ive used farm tractor red.
     
  8. Grandpas67

    Grandpas67 Well-Known Member

    We just sprayed ours with the DE1653. It looks great. I'm not looking to win a trophy for this. Just want it to be presentable when the hood opens up. 20181012_170923.jpg 20181012_170937.jpg
     
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  9. bostoncat68

    bostoncat68 Platinum Level Contributor

    I used the Rustoleum universal engine red based on a prior post. But I have to say if I was doing it over I would use the duplicolor paint simply because it sprays so well and seems to hold up well. I also love their clear gloss, great stuff.
     
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  10. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    The 1653 is what I have been using here for the last couple years.. I had switch to Rustoelum Universal red there for a while, it was a good shade, but horrible to work with.. look at it funny and it ran like crazy.. took forever to dry... I really like duplicolor paint, how it sprays, and it's dry time and finish.. I will say, use in a well ventilated area, it really smells bad now, different than similar duplicolor paints did before.

    I just wanted to add, that in my experience, all engine paints darken once they heat cycle.. the 1653, like the 1608 before it, is the closest thing I have found to Buick red, after the heat darkens it a bit. I have a very nice valve cover from 1970 here that I use for paint match, and it matches that pretty much spot on.. When they come back from the dyno.. a bit too bright before the heat, for sure.

    I always used to wonder why folks used that 2114 paint, because every engine painted with that, I saw out at the track and on cruise nights looked too dark to me. Then a customer supplied some to me, to paint his engine with, and after I sprayed it, I realized why it's used.. it looks pretty much right on, out of the can.. before the heat.. I have some pictures on my desktop here of the before and after, and if I get a chance later, I will try and find and post them.

    JW
     
  11. bostoncat68

    bostoncat68 Platinum Level Contributor

    @Jim Weise I totally agree re Rustoleum -- it literally takes a week to dry and is not the most resistant to gas. I had my valve cover powder coated as I've struggled to get any rattle can paint to hold up on valve covers -- regardless of brand. Was totally worth it...
     
  12. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    The Krylon 2114 is most closest to the factory color, right out of the can, before any heat cycles but has been no longer available for 4 or 5 years now.

    The Duplicolor BCP100, in this test, most closely matches the 2114, it is just the slightest shade lighter.

    For the next phase of this test I think I will bake the sample sheet in my oven at 250 F for an hour. Or maybe cut it in half and bake half of it to compare with unbaked.
     
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  13. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    I have some valve covers in good shape, panted with Krylon 2114 back in the mid 80's, with lots of time on them. I will compare those with the test samples to see how the color has changed over time/temp.
     
  14. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, both of those are no longer available
     
  15. TorqueMonster1

    TorqueMonster1 Making My GS Great Again!

    So, if the good matches in color are no longer available what is the closest match that is currently being sold?
     
  16. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    Be sure and cook 'em when the wifey is out...
     
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  17. kenny t

    kenny t Gold Level Contributor

    I think Bill Hirsch is an excellent choice A64A3B33-EF8F-442B-B0BB-62F1C4970E08.jpeg
     
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  18. GSX 554

    GSX 554 Gold Level Contributor

    Yes the Bill Hirsch paint is the closest I have found. But as in your picture it appears too Pinkish . That is because of the sunlight . If your hood was on it is the correct hue . In the direct sunlight it appears too light but in normal enviroment as with the hood on its correct. And it appears this engine has never been run because of the missing Distributor and wires and throttle spring return
     
  19. OHC JOE

    OHC JOE Mullet Mafia since 2020

    Here is mine in the old school duplicolor paint 1200
    DH1608
     

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  20. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    Duplicolor Brake Caliper Paint Red BCP100, in my opinion
     
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