Anti-Freeze Mixture

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by 65WILDKAT, Dec 8, 2004.

  1. 65WILDKAT

    65WILDKAT A PROUD FATHER OF THREE!

    I was wondering what he best Antifreeze Mixture is to use on the older cars? Also What is the best Antifreeze for the Older cars. I just got my Radiator Recored and I want to make it last and I know that flushing it once a year is good also,But Is there a "BETTER ANTIFREEZE"? compared to another?
    Don
     
  2. jimmy

    jimmy Low-Tech Dinosaur

    I use only prestone 50/50 in everything. Even dumped the red stuff and put in prestone in my late model GM.
     
  3. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    I keep hearing this.

    :puzzled: I've had dexcool in my 94 Explorer for about 3 years now. Not a single solitary problem. Plus, my 2002 Durango came with it.

    What's this dooms day event I'm supposed to expect?
     
  4. From what I understand the red stuff is fine, as long as you change it as some point, and do not let it get low.

    The stuff will crystalize when it starts to break down, and cooling systems do not like to pump crystals.
     
  5. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    Interesting. So much for the 150,000 mile BS then I suppose. I can't believe they (GM) can get away with this. Can you imagine the possible law suits? I would think they'd cover their a$$es and pull it until they resolve the problem??
     
  6. MGSCP

    MGSCP Guest

    :puzzled: yeah whats up with that orange anti-freeze I think it sux........ :puzzled: looks like muddy water

    :Do No: anybody still make green?????????????? :Do No: prestone you say :Do No:
     
  7. I think the Dex Cool is extended life anti-freeze, and it is not that bad of stuff. Problem is, you just can't let it go the wayside like the green stuff. The green stuff gets low/contaminated, it just gets dark (and you lose any protection). On the other hand, when Dexcool starts to break down, you better pay it attention.

    I think it is OK stuff, and 150k miles might not be out of the question (if you keep it topped off), but I think selling it as "lifetime" coolant is wrong.
    But of course, so many things are sold as "lifetime" things that we all know should be changed at 10 years/100,000 miles.

    Prestone is what they sell down in Alabama. I have also seen "Peak" brand.
     

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  8. nailheadina67

    nailheadina67 Official Nailheader

    I always run generic green anti-freeze, mixed 50/50 or maybe a little bit thicker. The key is not to run straight anti-freeze.........it will actually cool less b/c it is too thick to transfer heat. I avoid prestone like the plague, seems like anytime I ever used it my radiator began seeping where the tubes are soldered to the tanks. Generic (NAPA brand, etc.) has worked well for me in all my vehicles over the past 15 years without any problems. :bglasses:
     
  9. 1nadrag

    1nadrag Well-Known Member

    Distilled water and 2 bottles of Red line Water Wetter. No anti freeze. If you blow a head gasket and the anti freeze get in your oil, there go the bearings and time for a new rebuild. With water wetter you just do 2 oil changes back to back and go. Take it from someone who had 2 GN's.
     
  10. crazyjackcsa

    crazyjackcsa Big and Untame

    Won't distilled water actually leach minerals out of the rad? At least that's what I've herad. And you can't run a mixture like that in the north lands it would freeze solid in the winter.
     
  11. 71GS455

    71GS455 Best Package Wins!


    When was the last time you had to subject this mixture to 0 - 20 degree temps though (FL)??? :Brow:
     
  12. skylark300

    skylark300 Well-Known Member

    Has anyone ever used Evans waterless coolant?
     
  13. evil16v

    evil16v Midwest Buick Mafia


    I have done LOTS of research on this. This is correct. and i prefer the greenstuff my self. problem is, to convert you must get rid of EVERY once
    of the dexcool before changeing to the green stuff. the two are completly
    incompatible and will make sludge when mixed.
     
  14. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    I dont know about these new style coolants, but green antifreeze looses its anti corrosive abilities after 1-2 years. Also, old antifreeze actually develops a small electrical charge if left too long. Once this happens, it wreaks havoc on temp sensors in late model cars.
     
  15. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    Rob,
    I've read this before. But, from everything I've read, it's not true at all. Fact is both Dexcool and the Green A/F is ethylene glycol antifreeze. The green stuff has a silicate based additive package, and Dexcool has an Organic acid additive package. You can mix the two together, and the only thing you lose is the extended drain intervals. Just for laughs, I mixed the two together one day when I was bored, and heated the mixture. Nothing happened, and there was no sludge. I use the green stuff in my GS, but have Dexcool in my 98 Riviera. I've seen problems with Dexcool gelling and sludging up when the cooling system is run low for an extended period. I personally wouldn't leave it in my engine for more than 2 years, same with the green stuff. Dexcool supposedly extends water pump life, that's the only advantage I see in it, but nothing will happen if you mix the two.
     
  16. MandMautomotive

    MandMautomotive Well-Known Member

    Dexcool won't go 150,000 miles, because some thing will fail by then. GM has a problem with intake gaskets leaking coolant, some say its from Dexcool. I think the gaskets were a poor design. Sometimes they even leak internally and ruin the bearings. Do a google search on Dexcool. There are plenty of people with problems. More than one web site trying to get a class action law suit going. If you have a 3.1 or 3.4 V6 Keep an eye out for coolant leaks. 5.0 and 5.7 are not much better. Distilled water is best. Do not used deionized water. It will pull the ions out of your radiator and heater core. Some cars even have ground straps on the heater core to help with electrolysis. If your dexcool looks like mud flush it and change the radiator cap. Weak caps can let air in the system and cause "mud". I have seen brand new replacement motors from the dealer using green coolant. I still use what ever the vehicle had from the factory, including Dexcool.
    my .02
    John
     
  17. evil16v

    evil16v Midwest Buick Mafia

    I've heard both ways on the sludge. i keep dexcool cars full in the to avoid the crystalization for certain.

    As far as the intervals go. I change them either at the end of a year or a year and a half. it depends on what i have time for and when it was done last.

    The green does the same work. cheeper at that. My 'burban was already swapped when i bought it. no problems yet.

    My folks's gs still haas the dexcool in it. I have already changed it once. It does keep the internals nice and clean thou. then again this car I speak of,
    Is very low mile and kept very nice( I do all of their maint on their car and house in trade for baby dsitting the boys at MY house :beer )
     
  18. jimmy

    jimmy Low-Tech Dinosaur

    I put the dex-cool in my 92 Jimmy with 4.3L and had to put on a water pump in about a month and another one in less than a year. So I put it back on a diet of the green stuff and no more problems.

    I kept my 99 Jimmy overfull of dex-cool until I finally decided to change over to Prestone so help stop the crystilization problem, but I still had a lot of pink powder around the radiator cap. Cap was leaking enough to suck in some air but not leak out antifreeze.

    You hear so many stories about this that it is hard to know what to believe so I just stick with Prestone in everthing.
     

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