Another Cam conundrum

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by CanadianBird, Oct 16, 2011.

  1. gsgtx

    gsgtx Silver Level contributor

  2. supremeefi

    supremeefi supremeefi


    Can run more? Or should run more?
     
  3. gsgtx

    gsgtx Silver Level contributor

    about the newer engines they can run more LSA because of no carbs, from the factory they do too. its very hard to get the engine to idle on the street with and tighter LSA and longer durations with computers . yes all out race cars will run the tighter LSA.
     
  4. gsgtx

    gsgtx Silver Level contributor

    carbs need to get a signal they would be flat, fuel injec cars can get a way with out that .
     
  5. gsgtx

    gsgtx Silver Level contributor

    thumpr cam with a tight lsa and a lot of duration was made for the guys that wants that rough idle. the best way to tell the ramp is at .200 lift.cant find the specs for the thumpr. but the XFI has the most. with a great idle. whats wrong with more under the curve?
     
  6. supremeefi

    supremeefi supremeefi

     
  7. gsgtx

    gsgtx Silver Level contributor

     
  8. gsgtx

    gsgtx Silver Level contributor

    help me out then what cam specs should i run in my nailhead. 323 gears 2 speed tranny. the heads are ported.its frame off resto street car not a race car. i like a smooth idle like i have now. it run 12.80 with a bad 1.85 60 ft time. what lift and duration and LSA should i run. what kind of times can you get me down to.
     
  9. supremeefi

    supremeefi supremeefi

    Compression, carb, exhaust system?

    A wider lobe sep will reduce cylinder pressure, tighter lobe seps typically enhance cylinder pressure.
    So depending on your compression ratio, that will determine the lobe sep needed as well as intake closing.

    But in most cases a 116 lobe sep on a small inch motor usually leads to laziness. Something around a 110 in either a single pattern or mild stagger would be good. But again it depends on your intake, heads, compression and exhaust system.

    Btw- I think Comp is s good cam company, I just think they're a better marketing company.
     
  10. gsgtx

    gsgtx Silver Level contributor

    thanks for the nice posts about camshafts. :TU:
     
  11. CanadianBird

    CanadianBird Silver Level contributor

    Did a compression test...all plugs out...not happy with reading for a fresh build.
    #1 150
    #3 100 1st try...came back after all others to do again...went to 90
    #5 130
    #7 150
    #2 150
    #4 150
    #6 135
    #8 145

    :puzzled:
     
  12. gsgtx

    gsgtx Silver Level contributor

    try a little oil down number 3 cyl and do an other reading. you need to have the carb wide open when doing your testing
     
  13. CanadianBird

    CanadianBird Silver Level contributor

    Can you define wide open on the carb please...Danks. I assume it is to make sure it can take in enough air???
     
  14. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Yes, you want to perform the test with the engine warmed up, and the carb at full throttle. I disconnect the fuel line, run the car out of fuel then with the coil wire off I do the test.

    As said above, if you have a low cylinder then try a bit of oil in the spark plug hole to see if that raises the number. It is also a good idea to run a leakdown test if you suspect a bad cylinder since it can help you narrow down a leaking valve etc.
     
  15. exfarmer

    exfarmer Well-Known Member

    Choke must be fully open also.
     
  16. CanadianBird

    CanadianBird Silver Level contributor

    put some fogging spray down that one hole...it went to 100 psi...that's it. made sure the secondaries were open. I know you guys are saying it NEEDS to be all open but...I am getting consistent readings on most other holes.
     
  17. supremeefi

    supremeefi supremeefi

    I probably would be either.
     
  18. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    So then, you likely have either a flat lobe on the cam or a sticking valve in the head. I would make a leakdown test my next move at this point. You can also rotate the engine with the valve cover off on that side to look for a flat lobe on the cam.
     
  19. exfarmer

    exfarmer Well-Known Member

    Boy you really got screwed over on that rebuild!
     
  20. mhgs

    mhgs it just takes money !!

    doubt a flat cam lobe could cause poor cranking cylinder pressure...most likely either poor sealing valve or poorly seated rings.
    first the oil in the cylinder .....that will tell you
     

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